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oldchinahand Feb 25, 2024 11:12 pm

To my understanding about 76% of the inflow was from mainland China, Taiwan or Macau

allianceflyer9506 Feb 29, 2024 11:04 am


Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 36026817)
Just some guess:

Maybe the migration wave after 2019 might change the expansion plan of CX. UK, Canada and Australia are the most popular destinations. While Australia is well served, some second tier cities in UK and Canada could be the potential target.

For example, Montreal and Calgary in Canada and Birmingham and Edinburgh in UK are good candidates for the new service.

Apart from that, Newark EWR could also be back soon. The Russian airspace issues could not be solved in the foreseeable future and the east coast is in serious supply shortage.

you mean CX890/899 which makes it an alternative to the 1:50am JFK CX843/845 flight inbound from HKG it's CX840 the 9pm arrival. If you're final destinations are CEB and MNL CX899 alongside JFK 843/845 still allows connection to CX907/921 to the Philippines from HKG.

Rfung925 Feb 29, 2024 2:05 pm

A little off topic but I wish CX can reinstate that 645pm flight to JFK CX846. It was so perfect.. sleep in HK, go out to dim sum one last time, grab some last minute things then get on the flight. When you land in NY- go home- and go right to bed and be ready for work the next day. Not a big fan of CX830 and omg the 3am flight they now have lmao- not trying to land in new York all groggy in the middle of rush hour at 6am.

PaulC852 Feb 29, 2024 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by TomYoung (Post 36028300)
I am far from being an expert in these matters but BA used to have rights to many points from HKG.

My recollection is that, although some BA flights flew on from HKG to MNL or TPE, they didn't have the right to sell tickets for the HKG-MNL/TPE sectors (or vice versa). I may be misremembering this from 20 years ago though. CX had a similar arrangement where MAN was served via AMS - you could never buy a ticket on CX solely for the AMS-MAN sector.

brunos Feb 29, 2024 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by PaulC852 (Post 36041895)
My recollection is that, although some BA flights flew on from HKG to MNL or TPE, they didn't have the right to sell tickets for the HKG-MNL/TPE sectors (or vice versa). I may be misremembering this from 20 years ago though. CX had a similar arrangement where MAN was served via AMS - you could never buy a ticket on CX solely for the AMS-MAN sector.

It's over 30 years ago, but CX was flying HKG-AMS-CDG and you could buy AMS-CDG (I did it a couple of time).
Economics are quite different today. At the time, it was difficult to fill a 747.

allianceflyer9506 Mar 1, 2024 12:51 am

6am flight
 

Originally Posted by Rfung925 (Post 36041258)
A little off topic but I wish CX can reinstate that 645pm flight to JFK CX846. It was so perfect.. sleep in HK, go out to dim sum one last time, grab some last minute things then get on the flight. When you land in NY- go home- and go right to bed and be ready for work the next day. Not a big fan of CX830 and omg the 3am flight they now have lmao- not trying to land in new York all groggy in the middle of rush hour at 6am.

You must be referring to the CX902 MNL-HKG JFK connection from HKG CX844 which goes back to HKG as 841. Regarding 846 if resumed 890 that times well with MNL 906/900 PER 144.

oldchinahand Mar 1, 2024 1:06 am

Cathay is going to up HKG -Cebu to 7 per week and then to twice daily by mid year
also - responding to recent requests from the Beijing government and in response to its gradual easing of solo travel permits to HK from second level cities CX has quickly boosted flights.The first of the new 2024 permits are for Xian and Qingdao with more cities scheduled this year.
Already on sale from yesterday are two extra weekly flights to Xian with daily flights to Qingdao to become wide body aircraft.

Isochronous Mar 2, 2024 7:22 am


Originally Posted by TomYoung (Post 36027834)
I would expect preference to be given to reaching daily frequency before starting new services elsewhere. When the do consider starting new services I wonder if they would find a triangle HKG-EDI-DUB-HKG attractive, especially if they could find a way to issue the EDI-HKG-EDI tickets with a transfer in DUB and reduce UK travel tax from long haul to short haul. Elsewhere I would look to a return of DVO, there being so much fresh produce to be shipped out of there in addition to overseas workers and seamen who will connect to long haul flights and incoming tourists.

One of the Chinese carriers runs a tag from EDI to DUB, or at least used to pre-pandemic.

I wonder if HKG-CNS might be revived?

US HK UK flyer Mar 2, 2024 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by Isochronous (Post 36045895)
I wonder if HKG-CNS might be revived?

Cairns is very desirous of getting ex-HK tourism money back as well as probably whatever mainland Chinese would come via HK, and even sent a delegation to HK last year to try and get Cathay to renew the route.

The fact that there has been no announcement on this front leads me to think maybe CX decided it wasn't very profitable. They don't have the manpower to renew routes that aren't going to perform well at this point. Perhaps being almost a pure leisure destination counts against it.

oldchinahand Mar 5, 2024 1:00 am

The Cairns route was terminated long prior to the pandemic -apparently unprofitable.

oldchinahand Mar 5, 2024 1:05 am

The HKG -Clark (90km south of Manila) route will be revived in June. A large new terminal opened last month and an upgraded expressway from metro Manila.
A rail link is under construction and due to be operational in 2026.

TomYoung Mar 5, 2024 2:32 am


Originally Posted by oldchinahand (Post 36053564)
The HKG -Clark (90km south of Manila) route will be revived in June. A large new terminal opened last month and an upgraded expressway from metro Manila.
A rail link is under construction and due to be operational in 2026.

Clark is NORTH of Manila, not south.

US HK UK flyer Mar 5, 2024 11:19 am


Originally Posted by oldchinahand (Post 36053564)
The HKG -Clark (90km south of Manila) route will be revived in June. A large new terminal opened last month and an upgraded expressway from metro Manila.
A rail link is under construction and due to be operational in 2026.

Is this confirmed? I saw this story yesterday and it seemed very tentative with Cathay "monitoring the situation to see when to return":

https://business.inquirer.net/448345...eturn-to-clark

Sounded more like hype from Philippines media based off a noncommittal Cathay quote than anything.

Felix Felicis Mar 5, 2024 5:23 pm


Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer (Post 36055028)
Is this confirmed? I saw this story yesterday and it seemed very tentative with Cathay "monitoring the situation to see when to return":

https://business.inquirer.net/448345...eturn-to-clark

Sounded more like hype from Philippines media based off a noncommittal Cathay quote than anything.


Turns out I'm with Philippine media. ;) This is a quote from the country manager, and sounds like an advertorial/PR trying to gauge interest. We (the media) have no skin in this game; we wouldn't care otherwise. Based on the posts here about it, I'd say they (CX) have their answer!

TomYoung Mar 5, 2024 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by Felix Felicis (Post 36056055)
Turns out I'm with Philippine media. ;) This is a quote from the country manager, and sounds like an advertorial/PR trying to gauge interest. We (the media) have no skin in this game; we wouldn't care otherwise. Based on the posts here about it, I'd say they (CX) have their answer!

I would rank DVO ahead of Clark. It has great fresh produce freight potential in addition to OFWs and seamen connecting to flights all over the world, plus the odd adventure tourist and surfer.


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