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Old Mar 2, 2024, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by midlevels
BOM/DEL J is usually always relatively full, while it’s often less busy in Y at the back.
Yes - my wife went on CX to BLR a couple of weeks ago and said it was 25% full at best in Y.
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Old Mar 2, 2024, 1:00 pm
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What are the fares in Y on these flights relative to competitors? If CX is running them anyway to cater to J demand why not lower fares a bit to fill up the back and up the profit potential of each flight?

There's actually lots of potential demand from Indian tourists given HK is one of the very few visa free destinations they have available (well pre-registration is a requirement, but it's very quick and online and 90% acceptance rate.)
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Old Mar 2, 2024, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
There's actually lots of potential demand from Indian tourists given HK is one of the very few visa free destinations they have available (well pre-registration is a requirement, but it's very quick and online and 90% acceptance rate.)
I thought India flights' attractiveness was flying Indian-Americans to/from the United States. O&D isn't that much?
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Old Mar 2, 2024, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
I thought India flights' attractiveness was flying Indian-Americans to/from the United States. O&D isn't that much?
Down to cost (both of the flights and HK). But there is interest if that can decrease.
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Old Mar 2, 2024, 6:15 pm
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Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
What are the fares in Y on these flights relative to competitors? If CX is running them anyway to cater to J demand why not lower fares a bit to fill up the back and up the profit potential of each flight?
Round-trip (actually HKG-BLR/MAA-HKG, but a simple RT was the same) was HK$1700 base fare. There's no direct competition on those routes.

The HKG-BLR was on an A350; MAA-HKG is showing as A330.

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Old Mar 2, 2024, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by midlevels
Still no movement on this and the changes are scheduled to come into place this month. Are you both still as confident?
Yes. The current schedule does not include any flight operated by A35K. Still we need to wait for another few weeks.
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Old Mar 3, 2024, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by midlevels
Still no movement on this and the changes are scheduled to come into place this month. Are you both still as confident?
Unless CX wants to retire all thier A350-1000, 777-300 and 777-300ER (that's around 45% of their current fleet) abruptly from 31 March, I'm pretty sure 333 and 359 are just placeholders.
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Old Mar 3, 2024, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by VE105
Unless CX wants to retire all thier A350-1000, 777-300 and 777-300ER (that's around 45% of their current fleet) abruptly from 31 March, I'm pretty sure 333 and 359 are just placeholders.
Like someone had said previously, I don't see a single flight on the timetable beginning April 1st operated by 35Ks. very minimal being operated by 77Ws and not a single one by the 773 either.
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Old Mar 3, 2024, 2:17 pm
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Phase out PE for regionals and just offer the PE seats (if available) as extra legroom? Who cares about the soft product differences for regional anyway?
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Old Mar 4, 2024, 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by csycsycsy
Phase out PE for regionals and just offer the PE seats (if available) as extra legroom? Who cares about the soft product differences for regional anyway?
I beg to differ. Short haul PE catering is now considered business lite.
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Old Mar 4, 2024, 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by CXFlyerBoy
I beg to differ. Short haul PE catering is now considered business lite.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35833160-post8.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35835155-post20.html

Sure, food is slightly nicer but the point is to not be in 10 abreast Y?
Have a feeling most pax in CX PY already have CX lounge access (CX SL/OWS)? It's the seat/crowd control...
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Old Mar 8, 2024, 2:50 pm
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Not India but TYO I noticed they have loaded an extra PY for 526 (NRT) for April 1, on a 33K. Only that date and only that flight added.
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Old Mar 8, 2024, 4:23 pm
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The 333 has been replaced with 77W J/PE/Y classes. PE not open for booking yet but I suppose that it will be.

Many other flights also updated yesterday. I have some TPE bookings that were updated from 333 (long haul) to 333 (regional) and others updated from 333 (long haul) to 773.
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Old Mar 8, 2024, 6:20 pm
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Is BLR elite heavy? Have a trip BLR to HKG and due to company restrictions, ticketed into EY.

Wanted to see if there is a chance operational upgrade will happen to PEY since UpgradeBid does not apply to India sectors.
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Old Mar 8, 2024, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by midlevels
The 333 has been replaced with 77W J/PE/Y classes. PE not open for booking yet but I suppose that it will be.

Many other flights also updated yesterday. I have some TPE bookings that were updated from 333 (long haul) to 333 (regional) and others updated from 333 (long haul) to 773.
Thanks!

SIN seems to be back to ..all 359s..time to hit the phone.


As an aside, CX ops must be under a lot of stress- given how late they’re changing the summer fleet plan.
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