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cute4kitty Mar 18, 2024 8:57 am

I had great experience with CX in 2016 from ORD to CAN. The air host was super kind and she actually took care of my toddler when she saw me struggling with having a meal. She gave me a hand and let me have my meal. I really appreciated that. I flied with different asisan airlines before, CX was the only one did this for me. So I am so impressed! I will fly with CX again.

Pristar Apr 24, 2024 12:01 am

Yes I feel cathay has dropped a lot in term of quality now compared to before covid. Feels like flying a budget airline now. You have to pay for advance seating. The counter don't want to give me a seat change and keep saying I have to pay for advance seating or else it's randomly assign at first check in. You also have to pay for 2nd luggage now. I guess I won't be using cathay again after this unless I plan to visit hong kong (not just transit).

ZSTWHK Apr 24, 2024 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by Pristar (Post 36183921)
Yes I feel cathay has dropped a lot in term of quality now compared to before covid. Feels like flying a budget airline now. You have to pay for advance seating. The counter don't want to give me a seat change and keep saying I have to pay for advance seating or else it's randomly assign at first check in. You also have to pay for 2nd luggage now. I guess I won't be using cathay again after this unless I plan to visit hong kong (not just transit).

If it was a budget airline you would have to pay for your 1st luggage already, as well as pay for your meal. Feels like you have really high expectations for a budget airline then?

To be fair, CX lays out exactly what you pay for in terms of seat reservation and luggage, you just didn't read. But there are also other airlines you can fly on if you want to visit Hong Kong...

wadia13 Apr 24, 2024 10:11 pm


Originally Posted by Pristar (Post 36183921)
Yes I feel cathay has dropped a lot in term of quality now compared to before covid. Feels like flying a budget airline now. You have to pay for advance seating. The counter don't want to give me a seat change and keep saying I have to pay for advance seating or else it's randomly assign at first check in. You also have to pay for 2nd luggage now. I guess I won't be using cathay again after this unless I plan to visit hong kong (not just transit).

Which full service airline now allows for free advanced seat selection before online check-in in economy for low-tier/non FF members? I'd be interested to know because I don't know of any. BTW, for even the lowest-tier CX member, you can select your seat for free at online check-in which opens 48h before departure (in case you didn't know).

JordanWalker Apr 24, 2024 11:12 pm


Originally Posted by wadia13 (Post 36186423)
Which full service airline now allows for free advanced seat selection before online check-in in economy for low-tier/non FF members? I'd be interested to know because I don't know of any. BTW, for even the lowest-tier CX member, you can select your seat for free at online check-in which opens 48h before departure (in case you didn't know).

If CX is a 'budget airline', god prohibit OP from taking AC
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percysmith Apr 25, 2024 12:57 am


Originally Posted by wadia13 (Post 36186423)
Which full service airline now allows for free advanced seat selection before online check-in in economy for low-tier/non FF members? I'd be interested to know because I don't know of any. BTW, for even the lowest-tier CX member, you can select your seat for free at online check-in which opens 48h before departure (in case you didn't know).

NH (just travelled, redemption) and KE (just ticketed for next Easter, cash)

Pickles Apr 25, 2024 1:56 am

That AC announcement is some fine Orwellian Newspeak.

tentseller Apr 25, 2024 9:38 am


Originally Posted by Pristar (Post 36183921)
Yes I feel cathay has dropped a lot in term of quality now compared to before covid. Feels like flying a budget airline now. You have to pay for advance seating. The counter don't want to give me a seat change and keep saying I have to pay for advance seating or else it's randomly assign at first check in. You also have to pay for 2nd luggage now. I guess I won't be using cathay again after this unless I plan to visit hong kong (not just transit).

I was able to select my choice of seat at booking and check in three bags.

SKT-DK Apr 27, 2024 5:58 am


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 36186677)
That AC announcement is some fine Orwellian Newspeak.

That does indeed look like an attempt to tell people to go to hell and make them look forward to it :D

PaulInTheSky Apr 27, 2024 6:29 am

It all depends.
 
OWE membership benefits still exist as usual. The general rule of thumb is the smaller the aircraft, the better the service. The less the elite members/passengers overall, the better the service. I received a personal greeting post-it on the screen on an A321. I have also received no recognition on a full flight (PEY/Y).
I wouldn't call this poor service, but they have definitely cracked down additional charges on seat assignments and baggage allowance. In the past, you used to be able to use an OWE membership card to gain access but credit your miles/points to AM or the other FFPs of your preference. I can confirm that in recent experience you couldn't do that anymore especially if you are an outstation:

1. Seat assignments. Still possible but the system might force a payment when you switch FFP
2. Baggage allowance. From OWE's 2-piece in Y to a regular OW Member (No status) 1-piece in Y. It used to be absolutely fine in the past but the system required the staff to either enforce it or override it.

3. Seat Together: OWE + OW (No status). If it's not booked together then you couldn't even get the Priority Y/PEY seat during check-in. Even the F check-in agent mentioned the system no longer allows it.

System-wise and overall it is definitely more nickel-and-dime, but I would not call it poor service by any means.

cxwaterboy Apr 27, 2024 7:42 am


Originally Posted by PaulInTheSky (Post 36192039)
OWE membership benefits still exist as usual. The general rule of thumb is the smaller the aircraft, the better the service is. I received a personal greeting tape-it on the screen on an A321. I have also received no recognition on a full flight (PEY/Y).
I wouldn't call this poor service, but they have definitely cracked down additional charges on seat assignments and baggage allowance. In the past, you used to be able to use an OWE membership card to gain access but credit your miles/points to AM or the other FFPs of your preference. I can confirm that in recent experience you couldn't do that anymore especially if you are an outstation:

1. Seat assignments. Still possible but the system might force a payment when you switch FFP
2. Baggage allowance. From OWE's 2-piece in Y to a regular OW Member (No status) 1-piece in Y. It used to be absolutely fine in the past but the system required the staff to either enforce it or override it.

3. Seat Together: OWE + OW (No status). If it's not booked together then you couldn't even get the Priority Y/PEY seat during checkin. Even the F check-in agent mentioned the system no longer allows it.

System-wise and overall it is definitely more nickel-and-dime, but I would not call it poor service by any means.

For 1 and 2, could you not put down your OWE to use the benefits and then switch it through Finnair or retro claim miles when you are in the lounge? Don't change it through Cathay's website.

PaulInTheSky Apr 28, 2024 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36192149)
For 1 and 2, could you not put down your OWE to use the benefits and then switch it through Finnair or retro claim miles when you are in the lounge? Don't change it through Cathay's website.

When I ran out of time, I usually just asked the lounge staff to swap the FFP numbers for me. For 1 and 2, it would definitely be an issue during check-in. I haven't tried that at the lounge. Would definitely try to avoid retro claim due to the high number of claims and flights to do. However, if that's the last resort, then I have no choice but to do it.

cxwaterboy Apr 29, 2024 2:24 am

Try using Finnair's website to change your FFP when you are in the lounge. So far, it has worked for me. It will not be a retro claim as it is still a last-minute claim.

ZSTWHK May 1, 2024 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by PaulInTheSky (Post 36192039)
OWE membership benefits still exist as usual. The general rule of thumb is the smaller the aircraft, the better the service. The less the elite members/passengers overall, the better the service. I received a personal greeting post-it on the screen on an A321. I have also received no recognition on a full flight (PEY/Y).
I wouldn't call this poor service, but they have definitely cracked down additional charges on seat assignments and baggage allowance. In the past, you used to be able to use an OWE membership card to gain access but credit your miles/points to AM or the other FFPs of your preference. I can confirm that in recent experience you couldn't do that anymore especially if you are an outstation:

1. Seat assignments. Still possible but the system might force a payment when you switch FFP
2. Baggage allowance. From OWE's 2-piece in Y to a regular OW Member (No status) 1-piece in Y. It used to be absolutely fine in the past but the system required the staff to either enforce it or override it.

3. Seat Together: OWE + OW (No status). If it's not booked together then you couldn't even get the Priority Y/PEY seat during check-in. Even the F check-in agent mentioned the system no longer allows it.

System-wise and overall it is definitely more nickel-and-dime, but I would not call it poor service by any means.

For 1, I have OW benefits through Qatar but 0 miles would be credited due to ticket fare. I would have free seat assignment due to my OW tier so I bought the cheapest Cathay Y ticket. I switched FFP online from QR to CX after I made my booking and I had a notice that said that I need to call CX or I'd lose my seat assignment. After calling CX, they said that they would keep my CX (Green so no benefit) FFP on my booking but they confirmed my seat assignment made using my QR FFP.

When I got to the airport I had to double check if I'd still get my OW benefits because I don't trust anything that happens at CX these days. I explained to the agent at the check in counter again, that the booking has my CX FFP but I also have OW benefits through QR and showed them my electronic QR card. They understood and "made a note on my booking" that I'd credit to Cathay but use Qatar benefits. The rest worked out fine from there.

TLDR, just call, explain, be polite, explain again, remain calm :)

CX HK May 2, 2024 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by ZSTWHK (Post 36203682)
When I got to the airport I had to double check if I'd still get my OW benefits because I don't trust anything that happens at CX these days. I explained to the agent at the check in counter again, that the booking has my CX FFP but I also have OW benefits through QR and showed them my electronic QR card. They understood and "made a note on my booking" that I'd credit to Cathay but use Qatar benefits. The rest worked out fine from there.

TLDR, just call, explain, be polite, explain again, remain calm :)

Wish they would save everyone's time and energy by allowing two FFP numbers, like SQ!


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