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brunos Jan 18, 2024 7:55 pm

They know a LOT of information on the pax and ticket.
The order in which they take the wishes for the meal is less important than the pax status. If a DM is asked last, he will still have his choice. That's how it works on CX and many airlines.
Veing so upset that you were the first one to be asked and not getting your main choice happens sometimes as the menu offer a wide choice and they cannot load 6 items of every choice offered.

AmD950 Jan 18, 2024 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by midlevels (Post 35922075)
Are you sure that's the case? I know that in the past cabin crew would know who is an op-up, but for those passengers who are flying in their original ticketed class, would the cabin crew actually have information about how the ticket was booked (i.e. revenue vs mileage upgrade vs full redemption)?

Yes. That's why they won't let you see what's on ther iPad.
They also knew what your case histories, or history of complaints.

percysmith Jan 18, 2024 10:09 pm


Originally Posted by AmD950 (Post 35922377)
They also knew what your case histories, or history of complaints.

That’s from your FQTS, and probably lets them lookup your CIV too.

Doesn’t prove they also have your ticketed fare class (although I guess they might have it too)

PaulC852 Jan 18, 2024 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 35922175)
they cannot load 6 items of every choice offered.

Back in the good old days that's exactly what they did.

blower Jan 19, 2024 11:53 am

Cathay Green Silver Gold and Diamond
 

Originally Posted by a1983 (Post 35885501)
what exactly is “Asia Miles Diamond Member”?

Cathay has Green, Silver, gold and diamond status within their system. This is the old "Marco Polo" club. They assign "Asia miles" and Cathay status points depending on your booking code. Recently, they simply multiply the Cathay points by 100 for miles. 140 points, is 14,000 miles. The miles are used as usual for redemptions and upgrades. The points are accumulated for status. Asia miles are transferrable or can be used with other Oneworld carriers. Cathay Silver is fairly easy to get if you book Premium Econ or better on a long haul transcontinental or medium haul regional Asian flight. That gets your priority luggage handling, lounge access regardless of class and some "extra legroom" free seats in Economy. They do have priority seats, and customers often choose them. Used to be you could get bumped to an upgrade, but they are certainly showing empty business and premium economy sections in their jets. The days of hoping for an upgrade are rare. There are issues with new employees fearing for their jobs given the recent firings and conflicts with mainland Chinese passengers. They are afraid to make decisions on the spot, so you get the problems we are reading about. I generally ask for the head FA - she's in a black outfit. No reason to complain. The experienced crew remaining are biding time, and may help you if you are humane rather than demanding. Cathay management was, and is still arrogant. They treated their employees, FA's and pilots like serfs. As a result, pilots retired or joined other airlines, FA's did the same, or they found other careers. These aren't high paying jobs. Self respect and respect from others is a currency we seem to forget

aznichiro115 Jan 20, 2024 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by hockeystl (Post 35916610)
Flew CX 883 LAX-HKG in F (on an AA pts redemption) a couple weeks ago and was not impressed.

Cabin booked 4/6. I was in 1A and FA came by offering pajamas. Wasn't sure about sizing so asked for rec from FA. She suggested M which I accepted. FA returns a few minutes later and advises they're now out of M after they were given to another pax!!! I then request the senior purser and explain the situation. Her eyes get massive and she appears shocked before apologizing and asking for a few moments to investigate. Looks like the revenue pax in 2D got the M and a pair of S or L were now my choices. Purser says she'll send a message and a pair of M would be waiting for me at The Pier in HKG. Upon arrival at The Pier they look at me like I'm crazy. No pajamas. Pitiful service failure.

Ended up sending in a complaint via the website and received 20k Asia Miles.

You were not impressed based on not getting your size of pajamas? In which the crew apologized for and tried to remedy and had no control over the outcome when you landed in HKG.

OK, Karen. You must be fun at parties.

blower Jan 20, 2024 8:31 pm

They gave me monogrammed PJ’a on my 1000th flight
 

Originally Posted by aznichiro115 (Post 35927455)
You were not impressed based on not getting your size of pajamas? In which the crew apologized for and tried to remedy and had no control over the outcome when you landed in HKG.

OK, Karen. You must be fun at parties.


carrotjuice Jan 21, 2024 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by aznichiro115 (Post 35927455)
You were not impressed based on not getting your size of pajamas? In which the crew apologized for and tried to remedy and had no control over the outcome when you landed in HKG.

I don't think this statement is particularly fair. The ISM told the passenger that a pair would be waiting for them at The Pier and would, presumably, follow up by sending a message to someone at The Pier to execute. This remediation outcome shouldn't have been promised if the ISM knew it couldn't be delivered. When a promise is made, the ISM should take responsibility to ensure it's delivered end-to-end.

brunos Jan 21, 2024 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by PaulC852 (Post 35922458)
Back in the good old days that's exactly what they did.

Unfortunately, that is not true.
I used to travel a lot in F in the decade pre-covid, often with wifey (both OWE).
There were rare times when one of us could not get a desired dish.

PaulC852 Jan 21, 2024 6:19 pm


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 35930111)
Unfortunately, that is not true.
I used to travel a lot in F in the decade pre-covid, often with wifey (both OWE).
There were rare times when one of us could not get a desired dish.

The "good old days" that I was referring to were earlier than that - around 1995-2005. I did close to 100 CX F sectors in that period. I never failed to get my choice of food. Everything started going downhill after that.

brunos Jan 22, 2024 2:04 am


Originally Posted by PaulC852 (Post 35930116)
The "good old days" that I was referring to were earlier than that - around 1995-2005. I did close to 100 CX F sectors in that period. I never failed to get my choice of food. Everything started going downhill after that.

DM never fail to get their food. Given the amount of F travel you did, you must have been DM then.
But I agree that CX became more cost conscious in the past 20 years. Rather than having the crew eat all the goodies leftover, they board less of the F/J food.

AmD950 Jan 22, 2024 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 35922416)
That’s from your FQTS, and probably lets them lookup your CIV too.

Doesn’t prove they also have your ticketed fare class (although I guess they might have it too)

You can try asking how many club points can you earn for this flight. (I think you know what I mean by this.)
Some newer staff will answer you after looking at the iPad.

percysmith Jan 22, 2024 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by AmD950 (Post 35933554)
You can try asking how many club points can you earn for this flight. (I think you know what I mean by this.)
Some newer staff will answer you after looking at the iPad.

Hard for me - my only 2024 CX cash flight is on 1 Apr. In Y.

ma930407 Jan 26, 2024 11:19 pm

Does CX still allocate CX own and ex Cathay Dragon crews to different flights? I have just been on a flight from Nagoya to Hong Kong. Aircraft is ex KA A330, and crews are mostly (if not all) ex KA. Service level is just top notch, and so different compared to my recent long haul flights with CX. They are much better trained. Even though it is a turnaround in NGO and they must be tired, they are still very energetic and caring on their passengers. Four cabin crews came to greet oneworld sapphire and emerald members. Then Japanese manager further came to greet and inform flight details. It is just JAL level of service on a CX flight. Missing KA …

drivingflyingwalking Jan 27, 2024 4:07 am


Originally Posted by ma930407 (Post 35945745)
Does CX still allocate CX own and ex Cathay Dragon crews to different flights? I have just been on a flight from Nagoya to Hong Kong. Aircraft is ex KA A330, and crews are mostly (if not all) ex KA. Service level is just top notch, and so different compared to my recent long haul flights with CX. They are much better trained. Even though it is a turnaround in NGO and they must be tired, they are still very energetic and caring on their passengers. Four cabin crews came to greet oneworld sapphire and emerald members. Then Japanese manager further came to greet and inform flight details. It is just JAL level of service on a CX flight. Missing KA …

No, any ex ka crew are only BCs at this time (junior crew) Cx have never separated crews based on their previous employment.


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