Run Out of Breakfast
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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Run Out of Breakfast
My son flew to MEL last night on CX 105, arriving after midday today. They ran out of breakfasts in economy. He said that he was also surprised that the cabin crew was so glum and lazy. No attempt through service, food or decoration had been made to recognise that this was a flight on Christmas Day. He contrasted it to a flight he took with SQ some years ago when the crew wore paper hats, and there were Merry Christmas signs in the cabin. And yet Cathay has the nerve to state "Cathay Pacific Airways Limited is a premium lifestyle brand". I suppose that they have a sense of humour. HAHAHA.
#3
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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My son had been asleep. After he woke a lady near him asked for breakfast and was told that they had run out. She did not receive anything. He was still full from Christmas eve and did not want anything so did not ask. Was she asking for a second breakfast, a special breakfast? He did not say and I did not cross exam him. He just reported his feelings from the flight which were not positive apart from having an empty seat next to him on a pretty full flight.
#5
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#6




Join Date: Apr 2019
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The feeling now I get for CX is one of those dated five stars hotels trying to hang on with minimal staffing and partly renovated floors. Where they can save money and increase revenue - they will do it.
I was on CX regional flights on Christmas' eve, Christmas' day and New Year day. I could not feel any efforts on the part of the crew to make it festive, except for a "rabbit toy" which I get from a KIX to TPE flight.
On a KIX to HKG flight, the toilet was disgusting with an unacceptable level of floor stickiness and faulty sink. The lamb option (designated as festive menu) on board a HKG to SIN flight tasted like a hamburger steak covered with salt.
The crew nowadays give me the vibe that "I am only here to ship you from point A to point B, we don't care anything else except to give bare minimum".
No matter how much we whine about it, CX is as it is under this management and economy. Any constructive opinion will only add to their costs of operation so it will never be taken.
Being the consumer, you always have the choice of picking another airline. For me, I am based in Hong Kong so it is simply more convenient to stick with CX.
I am going to read more into expectation management in 2024 so I can bear through any CX flights.
I was on CX regional flights on Christmas' eve, Christmas' day and New Year day. I could not feel any efforts on the part of the crew to make it festive, except for a "rabbit toy" which I get from a KIX to TPE flight.
On a KIX to HKG flight, the toilet was disgusting with an unacceptable level of floor stickiness and faulty sink. The lamb option (designated as festive menu) on board a HKG to SIN flight tasted like a hamburger steak covered with salt.
The crew nowadays give me the vibe that "I am only here to ship you from point A to point B, we don't care anything else except to give bare minimum".
No matter how much we whine about it, CX is as it is under this management and economy. Any constructive opinion will only add to their costs of operation so it will never be taken.
Being the consumer, you always have the choice of picking another airline. For me, I am based in Hong Kong so it is simply more convenient to stick with CX.
I am going to read more into expectation management in 2024 so I can bear through any CX flights.
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#8




Join Date: May 2023
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You ex-HK guys should really try flying Western (especially American) carriers more and count your blessings.
#9


Join Date: Aug 2020
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The feeling now I get for CX is one of those dated five stars hotels trying to hang on with minimal staffing and partly renovated floors. Where they can save money and increase revenue - they will do it.
I was on CX regional flights on Christmas' eve, Christmas' day and New Year day. I could not feel any efforts on the part of the crew to make it festive, except for a "rabbit toy" which I get from a KIX to TPE flight.
On a KIX to HKG flight, the toilet was disgusting with an unacceptable level of floor stickiness and faulty sink. The lamb option (designated as festive menu) on board a HKG to SIN flight tasted like a hamburger steak covered with salt.
The crew nowadays give me the vibe that "I am only here to ship you from point A to point B, we don't care anything else except to give bare minimum".
No matter how much we whine about it, CX is as it is under this management and economy. Any constructive opinion will only add to their costs of operation so it will never be taken.
Being the consumer, you always have the choice of picking another airline. For me, I am based in Hong Kong so it is simply more convenient to stick with CX.
I am going to read more into expectation management in 2024 so I can bear through any CX flights.
I was on CX regional flights on Christmas' eve, Christmas' day and New Year day. I could not feel any efforts on the part of the crew to make it festive, except for a "rabbit toy" which I get from a KIX to TPE flight.
On a KIX to HKG flight, the toilet was disgusting with an unacceptable level of floor stickiness and faulty sink. The lamb option (designated as festive menu) on board a HKG to SIN flight tasted like a hamburger steak covered with salt.
The crew nowadays give me the vibe that "I am only here to ship you from point A to point B, we don't care anything else except to give bare minimum".
No matter how much we whine about it, CX is as it is under this management and economy. Any constructive opinion will only add to their costs of operation so it will never be taken.
Being the consumer, you always have the choice of picking another airline. For me, I am based in Hong Kong so it is simply more convenient to stick with CX.
I am going to read more into expectation management in 2024 so I can bear through any CX flights.
As a DM, I have felt that all crew tried their best to make me happy in my several flights with CX recently.
From the basic greeting and small talks, priority order taking in Business and in Economy, to giving me both appetizers, reserving dinner options to serve me in 2nd meal, and when I found out the seat beside me was occupied (it was not when I online check-in), the crew came back with a list of empty rows for me to choose, and on another flight when the crew learnt I have a tight connection, they move me to PEY for quicker disembarkation.
Even when I'm in Economy, the crew addressed me by my surname when they took my order and served me meal, and they're super responsive to any requests I made across cabins. I certainly didn't feel the vibe that "they are just responsible for shipping me from A to B".
#10


Join Date: Aug 2020
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I have only once encountered a festive Christmas atmosphere on flights and that was on BA where the FAs were wearing cheap reindeer hats and serving inedible turkey dinners.
You ex-HK guys should really try flying Western (especially American) carriers more and count your blessings.
You ex-HK guys should really try flying Western (especially American) carriers more and count your blessings.
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post35778685
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...d#post35180909
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...r#post35371777
Ive had the break from work to do 6 legs on AA and AS as well - one transcon, four North America and one TPAC F. Didnt really have anything remarkable happen to me on the first five. The TPAC (AA F) - I would say the service was curt, but otherwise ok <- I guess my expectations were super low, and AA beat the spread.
#12


Join Date: Aug 2020
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You havent seen my posts on BA
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post35778685
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...d#post35180909
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...r#post35371777
Ive had the break from work to do 6 legs on AA and AS as well - one transcon, four North America and one TPAC F. Didnt really have anything remarkable happen to me on the first five. The TPAC (AA F) - I would say the service was curt, but otherwise ok <- I guess my expectations were super low, and AA beat the spread.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post35778685
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...d#post35180909
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...r#post35371777
Ive had the break from work to do 6 legs on AA and AS as well - one transcon, four North America and one TPAC F. Didnt really have anything remarkable happen to me on the first five. The TPAC (AA F) - I would say the service was curt, but otherwise ok <- I guess my expectations were super low, and AA beat the spread.
I trust your criticism in your posts were well grounded.
#14




Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 42
I don't see my criticisms (apart from delivering a festive feel) to be anywhere "bixching". Yes, they are not obliged to do anything about it being Christmas or New Year or Chinese New Year.
Faulty toilet not dealt with by crew and allowing it to deteriorate would be "unreasonably high expectation on CX and are mean to its crew". How about my criticism on crew looking as if not attentive? That could be something subjective and again, perhaps "mean".
I do where I can encourage the crew and engage in chat as I am thankful for what they do. I also understand the situation they are in. I think most of us here on the CX forum wanted to see the airline prosper and regain its place.
If the same would happen on a flight with JL, BR or CI, I would have made the same criticism.
Put fairly, not all of my CX flights in 2023 were bad and good for you to have come across the attentive services your shared on your flights with CX, maybe the next criticism is for them to deliver the same consistently?
It may also be the case that because I fly almost exclusively regional flights (less than 5 hours) so the SOP maybe different?
Faulty toilet not dealt with by crew and allowing it to deteriorate would be "unreasonably high expectation on CX and are mean to its crew". How about my criticism on crew looking as if not attentive? That could be something subjective and again, perhaps "mean".
I do where I can encourage the crew and engage in chat as I am thankful for what they do. I also understand the situation they are in. I think most of us here on the CX forum wanted to see the airline prosper and regain its place.
If the same would happen on a flight with JL, BR or CI, I would have made the same criticism.
Put fairly, not all of my CX flights in 2023 were bad and good for you to have come across the attentive services your shared on your flights with CX, maybe the next criticism is for them to deliver the same consistently?
It may also be the case that because I fly almost exclusively regional flights (less than 5 hours) so the SOP maybe different?
#15




Join Date: May 2012
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Posts: 215
This "we run out of bkfast" has happen to me on several flights with CX. Usually when sitting in the bulkhead as they reverse the serving order from front to back for dinner to back to front for bkfast. By the time they reached the first road they would have run out of Y bkfast and offered a small pizza from the C bar.
I can recall SK Christmas's flights where the side panels where decorated with small xmass crown's every 2 rows or so... but that of course was on an MD87 or 82 with the 1990's SK. I doubt this is done anymore... it gave a very nice feeling...
I can recall SK Christmas's flights where the side panels where decorated with small xmass crown's every 2 rows or so... but that of course was on an MD87 or 82 with the 1990's SK. I doubt this is done anymore... it gave a very nice feeling...

