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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 3:24 pm
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Partner Reward Availability on CX

Does anyone know why the oneworld partner rewards may not show on CX website?

For example AKL-DOH in J 17 May 2024 or any dates around then. Plenty of availability showing on AA website for QR and MH flights, but nothing showing on CX.

New to asia miles, is this normal?
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 7:35 pm
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AA may show phantom space. Does it also show on AS and BA? If it does, could try calling in.
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 1:34 am
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There is plenty of availability showing on both AA and BA, so I'll give CX a call later in the week - thanks for the reply
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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 3:50 am
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I have on some instances checked with Asiamiles and they cannot see the availibility. I see it on BA and AS.

Is QR blocking seats from Asiamiles
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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by aquanine
AA may show phantom space. Does it also show on AS and BA? If it does, could try calling in.
BA will also have preferred access into QR
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 2:38 am
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I recall talking to an executive from a OneWorld airline (sorry cannot mention names) about variations in inventory, and he said the airlines don't necessarily make the same inventory available to all their partners, so looking at a partner should be considered indicative
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by Nicc HK
I recall talking to an executive from a OneWorld airline (sorry cannot mention names) about variations in inventory, and he said the airlines don't necessarily make the same inventory available to all their partners, so looking at a partner should be considered indicative
And we have always been at war with Eastasia! Rumor: MPC will go way of PPS

Oneworld says its members have agreed to make reward seats equally available—if one carrier offers the seats, all must offer them. The alliance hopes that can be a "competitive advantage," said spokesman Michael Blunt.
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith
And we have always been at war with Eastasia! Rumor: MPC will go way of PPS
Always been a Oceania man myself, go IngSoc!

Yes I read the quote, however caveats and exceptions also come into play, plus the various airline systems do not always 'talk' to each other. JAL's can almost be described as zenophobic.
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Old Jul 24, 2023 | 4:57 am
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I think there is a thread on QR availability with CX miles and the consensus was CX do not get full availability to QR seats for some reason.
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Old Jul 24, 2023 | 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver_dvs
I think there is a thread on QR availability with CX miles and the consensus was CX do not get full availability to QR seats for some reason.
Yes, unfortunately. I have compared the availability for BA (available) and called in to CX to check (None)
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Old Jul 24, 2023 | 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by luv_flying
Yes, unfortunately. I have compared the availability for BA (available) and called in to CX to check (None)
BA (Avios) has privileged access to QR award inventory.
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Old Jul 24, 2023 | 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Oneworld says its members have agreed to make reward seats equally availableif one carrier offers the seats, all must offer them. The alliance hopes that can be a "competitive advantage," said spokesman Michael Blunt.
Reading through the thread it looks like the agreement is asperational not necessarily something that will happen
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Old Jul 25, 2023 | 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by Nicc HK
Reading through the thread it looks like the agreement is asperational not necessarily something that will happen
(sorry you baited me into another Orwell) All FFPs are equal but some FFPs are more equal than others?
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Old Jul 25, 2023 | 4:37 am
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To return to the original question:
1. It is often the case that award availability varies according to the partner FFP. As an example, CX tends to offer F/J CA availability to its MPC members first, then release to other FFPS if not picked up with a few days/weeks.

2. AVailability can be partner dependant. For example, QR F/J availability could be there for some partners but not for others. Also, there might be phantom availability. QR has two levels of awards, standard and x2 (meaning twice as many miles). Some airline IT might pick up the x2 awards while these are not bookable as standard award. QR has special agreements with BA and AA, not CX.

3. Even for its own members QR has been quite stingy for J/F award lately. Their yield management seems to cut availability for long periods of time (e.g. summer) and then reinstate it.
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Old Jul 25, 2023 | 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by brunos
2. AVailability can be partner dependant. For example, QR F/J availability could be there for some partners but not for others. Also, there might be phantom availability. QR has two levels of awards, standard and x2 (meaning twice as many miles). Some airline IT might pick up the x2 awards while these are not bookable as standard award. QR has special agreements with BA and AA, not CX.
I doubt QR 2X will be visible to Cathay AM (this will be akin to AA's dynamic pricing where only the most dirt-cheap rate will be visible to partners like Cathay AM)?
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