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polglase Jul 6, 2023 3:24 pm

Partner Reward Availability on CX
 
Does anyone know why the oneworld partner rewards may not show on CX website?

For example AKL-DOH in J 17 May 2024 or any dates around then. Plenty of availability showing on AA website for QR and MH flights, but nothing showing on CX.

New to asia miles, is this normal?

aquanine Jul 6, 2023 7:35 pm

AA may show phantom space. Does it also show on AS and BA? If it does, could try calling in.

polglase Jul 10, 2023 1:34 am

There is plenty of availability showing on both AA and BA, so I'll give CX a call later in the week - thanks for the reply :)

db07mufan Jul 10, 2023 3:50 am

I have on some instances checked with Asiamiles and they cannot see the availibility. I see it on BA and AS.

Is QR blocking seats from Asiamiles

percysmith Jul 11, 2023 6:38 am


Originally Posted by aquanine (Post 35392440)
AA may show phantom space. Does it also show on AS and BA? If it does, could try calling in.

BA will also have preferred access into QR

Nicc HK Jul 12, 2023 2:38 am

I recall talking to an executive from a OneWorld airline (sorry cannot mention names) about variations in inventory, and he said the airlines don't necessarily make the same inventory available to all their partners, so looking at a partner should be considered indicative

percysmith Jul 12, 2023 3:49 am


Originally Posted by Nicc HK (Post 35406096)
I recall talking to an executive from a OneWorld airline (sorry cannot mention names) about variations in inventory, and he said the airlines don't necessarily make the same inventory available to all their partners, so looking at a partner should be considered indicative

And we have always been at war with Eastasia! https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post24791807


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 24791807)


Oneworld says its members have agreed to make reward seats equally available—if one carrier offers the seats, all must offer them. The alliance hopes that can be a "competitive advantage," said spokesman Michael Blunt.

Nicc HK Jul 12, 2023 4:08 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 35406185)
And we have always been at war with Eastasia! https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post24791807

Always been a Oceania man myself, go IngSoc!

Yes I read the quote, however caveats and exceptions also come into play, plus the various airline systems do not always 'talk' to each other. JAL's can almost be described as zenophobic.

oliver_dvs Jul 24, 2023 4:57 am

I think there is a thread on QR availability with CX miles and the consensus was CX do not get full availability to QR seats for some reason.

luv_flying Jul 24, 2023 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by oliver_dvs (Post 35439323)
I think there is a thread on QR availability with CX miles and the consensus was CX do not get full availability to QR seats for some reason.

Yes, unfortunately. I have compared the availability for BA (available) and called in to CX to check (None)

percysmith Jul 24, 2023 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by luv_flying (Post 35441734)
Yes, unfortunately. I have compared the availability for BA (available) and called in to CX to check (None)

BA (Avios) has privileged access to QR award inventory.

Nicc HK Jul 24, 2023 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 35406185)
Oneworld says its members have agreed to make reward seats equally available—if one carrier offers the seats, all must offer them. The alliance hopes that can be a "competitive advantage," said spokesman Michael Blunt.

Reading through the thread it looks like the agreement is asperational not necessarily something that will happen

percysmith Jul 25, 2023 12:35 am


Originally Posted by Nicc HK (Post 35442056)
Reading through the thread it looks like the agreement is asperational not necessarily something that will happen

(sorry you baited me into another Orwell) All FFPs are equal but some FFPs are more equal than others?

brunos Jul 25, 2023 4:37 am

To return to the original question:
1. It is often the case that award availability varies according to the partner FFP. As an example, CX tends to offer F/J CA availability to its MPC members first, then release to other FFPS if not picked up with a few days/weeks.

2. AVailability can be partner dependant. For example, QR F/J availability could be there for some partners but not for others. Also, there might be phantom availability. QR has two levels of awards, standard and x2 (meaning twice as many miles). Some airline IT might pick up the x2 awards while these are not bookable as standard award. QR has special agreements with BA and AA, not CX.

3. Even for its own members QR has been quite stingy for J/F award lately. Their yield management seems to cut availability for long periods of time (e.g. summer) and then reinstate it.

percysmith Jul 25, 2023 4:58 am


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 35442482)
2. AVailability can be partner dependant. For example, QR F/J availability could be there for some partners but not for others. Also, there might be phantom availability. QR has two levels of awards, standard and x2 (meaning twice as many miles). Some airline IT might pick up the x2 awards while these are not bookable as standard award. QR has special agreements with BA and AA, not CX.

I doubt QR 2X will be visible to Cathay AM (this will be akin to AA's dynamic pricing where only the most dirt-cheap rate will be visible to partners like Cathay AM)?


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