Moving to the US -- strategy on status/miles?
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: New York, NY - USA
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Moving to the US -- strategy on status/miles?
I'm DM and extremely loyal to CX. Currently based in BKK, previously PVG. Always transit through HKG and always credit OW to CX otherwise.
I'm moving to NYC soon. I'll be back to Asia from time to time, but not enough to really make sense to be all-in on CX, unfortunately.
Does it make sense to try to keep DM by crediting AA/BA flights, for example? OWE has access to AA lounges even for domestic I think, something top-tier AA doesn't even get. Or should I reconsider my entire loyalty strategy? Between AA/DL/UA, I think UA offers the most value and DL the best experience (in my opinion). That said, I haven't lived in the US in many years.
Just thinking out loud here, looking for advice/thoughts.
I'm moving to NYC soon. I'll be back to Asia from time to time, but not enough to really make sense to be all-in on CX, unfortunately.
Does it make sense to try to keep DM by crediting AA/BA flights, for example? OWE has access to AA lounges even for domestic I think, something top-tier AA doesn't even get. Or should I reconsider my entire loyalty strategy? Between AA/DL/UA, I think UA offers the most value and DL the best experience (in my opinion). That said, I haven't lived in the US in many years.
Just thinking out loud here, looking for advice/thoughts.
#2
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Check your earn rates. The last time I looked at this, crediting non CX flights to CX is hard to gain status. And actually the CX program is generally hard to get status compared to AA/BA.
Depending on where you’re flying in the USA an Amex platinum card will probably solve your lounge issues.
Depending on where you’re flying in the USA an Amex platinum card will probably solve your lounge issues.
#3
Join Date: Jul 2018
Programs: CX MPC Silver (OWR)
Posts: 46
I'm DM and extremely loyal to CX. Currently based in BKK, previously PVG. Always transit through HKG and always credit OW to CX otherwise.
I'm moving to NYC soon. I'll be back to Asia from time to time, but not enough to really make sense to be all-in on CX, unfortunately.
Does it make sense to try to keep DM by crediting AA/BA flights, for example? OWE has access to AA lounges even for domestic I think, something top-tier AA doesn't even get. Or should I reconsider my entire loyalty strategy? Between AA/DL/UA, I think UA offers the most value and DL the best experience (in my opinion). That said, I haven't lived in the US in many years.
Just thinking out loud here, looking for advice/thoughts.
I'm moving to NYC soon. I'll be back to Asia from time to time, but not enough to really make sense to be all-in on CX, unfortunately.
Does it make sense to try to keep DM by crediting AA/BA flights, for example? OWE has access to AA lounges even for domestic I think, something top-tier AA doesn't even get. Or should I reconsider my entire loyalty strategy? Between AA/DL/UA, I think UA offers the most value and DL the best experience (in my opinion). That said, I haven't lived in the US in many years.
Just thinking out loud here, looking for advice/thoughts.
#4
Join Date: Sep 2020
Programs: BA Gold; ex JAL JGCP
Posts: 261
If you can hit GO and you're happy with GO then you still have access to AA lounges for domestic as OWS, compared to hitting Plat with AA. You'll just miss out on domestic upgrades but depending on the specific route you might have no shot anyway as a Plat or even Plat Pro.
Check between CX MPC and BAEC and see which one you are more likely to get status from - BAEC has a 4 leg requirement but if you need to go to Europe from time to time it is easy to settle.
Afterall, AA/UA/DL miles is much easier to manufacture in the US and they don't charge YQ...
#6
Join Date: May 2015
Location: HKG
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I still live in HK, and fly mostly CX, but credit all my flights to AA. I do a fair bit of travel to the US and fly domestically, so it makes sense for me. I assume it would make sense for you too if you are flying enough to get to DM. I dont fly enough long hauls to reach DM on CX but am easily able to reach Exec Plat on AA (OWE). Once in the US, there are a number of ways to get easy AA loyalty points (credit cards, e-shopping through their portal, dining, car rentals, etc) so I find making OWE attainable on AA but less so on CX. AA does not have a spending requirement anymore - its simply a combination of loyalty points. The domestic upgrades are worth it for me, and I have found AA to be more generous with the redeemable miles awarded on most tickets. My wife is CX Gold and she receives far less miles for the same flights (even on CX!). On the lounge portion, yes having CX gold and above gives you free lounge access, but AA lounges 1. arent great and 2. can be bought for $600 per year if its really important to you. The Citi credit card gives you plus up to 10 authorized users full AA lounge access. You still get access when flying non-AA flights internationally even without membership at Exec Plat. I personally value OWE for the access to F lounges at HKG, but YMMV.
#7
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I think spartanmu summarizes the situation. And if you live in the US, the case for AA FFP, makes even more sense. The credit cards alone are a great advantage. And the domestic opup.
If you are in a DL or UA hub, then those make sense too, but you won't be abble to credit your CX flights there.
If you are in a DL or UA hub, then those make sense too, but you won't be abble to credit your CX flights there.
#8
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I would personally go BA and get the Chase card, unless you fly super often or are happy to commit non-travel spend to AA to get LP.
I find it easier to hit BA Gold than EXP being US based and it frees up more spend to then place on the highest earning card/programme possible.
I find it easier to hit BA Gold than EXP being US based and it frees up more spend to then place on the highest earning card/programme possible.
#10
Join Date: Sep 2005
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I'd say it depends. With the new fare family, a CX light fare on ultra-short flights (e. g., HKG-TPE) only earns 3 status points if booked in S/N/Q/O class, whereas a mileage-eligible AA flight (so anything besides B or O class) earns at least 5 status points.
#11
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I think it depends what tickets you normally purchase. Econ, Biz or First? If Econ then US status like AA makes sense if you can get to the higher tiers for complimentary upgrades. If you are already buying biz/first tickets then I don't see the need for US status unless you feel the earn/burn ratio is better. Another factor to me is what airline you plan to redeem your miles on. Even though all OneWorld I find if you want to redeem on AA you should have AA miles as it is easier to redeem. Same if you want to redeem on CX better to have CX DM as they will release waitlist to DM first.
#12
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I think it depends what tickets you normally purchase. Econ, Biz or First? If Econ then US status like AA makes sense if you can get to the higher tiers for complimentary upgrades. If you are already buying biz/first tickets then I don't see the need for US status unless you feel the earn/burn ratio is better. Another factor to me is what airline you plan to redeem your miles on. Even though all OneWorld I find if you want to redeem on AA you should have AA miles as it is easier to redeem. Same if you want to redeem on CX better to have CX DM as they will release waitlist to DM first.
#13
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#14
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