Reverse herringbone armrest - up or down?
Mar 13, 2019 | 5:43 am
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Reverse herringbone armrest - up or down?
i have been in some A330 where the crew are adamant that the arm rest in J be lifted up during takeoff and landing. So much so that it created a bit of ruckus when I once had a seat where the arm rest wouldn’t stay up and would slide down at the slightest touch, and the crew insisted that I change seats.
But i notice in my recent flights on 787 and A350, the crew couldn’t care to insist that they be lifted on takeoff and landing.
Does the practice differ by plane, if so why? Couldn’t quite comprehend the difference as they are largely the same seat occupying the same space?
But i notice in my recent flights on 787 and A350, the crew couldn’t care to insist that they be lifted on takeoff and landing.
Does the practice differ by plane, if so why? Couldn’t quite comprehend the difference as they are largely the same seat occupying the same space?
Mar 13, 2019 | 6:09 am
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This is a little backwards....the J armrest must be DOWN for takeoff and landing on 2 variants: B77W and A350. It is allowed to be UP or DOWN on one variant: A333.
i have no idea about other carriers policies. But the above is how CX FAs are supposed to enforce pretakeoff /prelanding.
IME, the confusion comes on the A333 when some FAs insist it be lowered. They are extrapolating from the B77W and A350 incorrectly, although I've found it's not worth the argument.
Lastly, on the A350 if the armrest won't go down and thus is broken in a mode that would leave the armrest up or disabled, the seat is not allowed to be flown. I know this from experience!
i have no idea about other carriers policies. But the above is how CX FAs are supposed to enforce pretakeoff /prelanding.
IME, the confusion comes on the A333 when some FAs insist it be lowered. They are extrapolating from the B77W and A350 incorrectly, although I've found it's not worth the argument.
Lastly, on the A350 if the armrest won't go down and thus is broken in a mode that would leave the armrest up or disabled, the seat is not allowed to be flown. I know this from experience!
Mar 13, 2019 | 8:07 am
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Indeed.
On 777, the requirement that the armrest be DOWN (not UP) seems strict.
On the A333, the FA might routinely lower it when they set my seat for landing/takeoff but that does not seem a requirement as I usually keep the armrest up if I set my seat up myself, and no one cares.
I have no idea why. Just he way the seat is certified.
On 777, the requirement that the armrest be DOWN (not UP) seems strict.
On the A333, the FA might routinely lower it when they set my seat for landing/takeoff but that does not seem a requirement as I usually keep the armrest up if I set my seat up myself, and no one cares.
I have no idea why. Just he way the seat is certified.
Mar 13, 2019 | 8:09 am
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Something about the amount of egress available in the case of emergency. The different angles of the seat cause the space for exit to be different on the different aircraft.
Mar 13, 2019 | 8:12 am
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Makes sense. Seats on A330 face more forward, as cabin is narrower, leaving more space to exit on the side
Mar 18, 2019 | 2:54 am
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If the armrests need to be down for take off and landing in J, why are they required to be up for take off and landing in Y?
I am board my flight and looking at the new CX Y seats, with the narrowed seats, it seems that without the armrests, pax seems easier to get out in case of emergency.
I am board my flight and looking at the new CX Y seats, with the narrowed seats, it seems that without the armrests, pax seems easier to get out in case of emergency.