Dropping a leg and getting bags in HKG instead of travelling to Vietnam
#46
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Just out of interest - does CX have to take legal action against the passenger for a reprice if you drop the last leg, or can they just calcualte and bill the credit card with no passenger consent?
(Legally I'd be questioning whether any such repice would actually be valid as it might be considered a 'penalty' - at least in places like USA, UK, Australia etc. But whether that concept applies in Viet Nam I have no idea.)
(Legally I'd be questioning whether any such repice would actually be valid as it might be considered a 'penalty' - at least in places like USA, UK, Australia etc. But whether that concept applies in Viet Nam I have no idea.)
#47
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Bring old clothes and an old suitcase for your travel. When you reach the destination, wear and throw. Finally discard suitcase and return with only carry on bags with no need for the airline to check in any baggage.
Seriously I do this for some of my trips. And it's cathartic.
Only thing that can possibly screw this up is if I go overboard with shopping at my destination.
Seriously I do this for some of my trips. And it's cathartic.
Only thing that can possibly screw this up is if I go overboard with shopping at my destination.
#48
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,172
Just out of interest - does CX have to take legal action against the passenger for a reprice if you drop the last leg, or can they just calcualte and bill the credit card with no passenger consent?
(Legally I'd be questioning whether any such repice would actually be valid as it might be considered a 'penalty' - at least in places like USA, UK, Australia etc. But whether that concept applies in Viet Nam I have no idea.)
(Legally I'd be questioning whether any such repice would actually be valid as it might be considered a 'penalty' - at least in places like USA, UK, Australia etc. But whether that concept applies in Viet Nam I have no idea.)
#49
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Depends on the wording of clause in contract of carriage but a reasonably good draft will allow CX to charge without having to sue. This seems to have been what BA did also and this is what hotels etc do when they discover that guest broke things in the room or removed certain items. The card holder can dispute the charge of course and there are procedures and a burden of proof to discharge. As for whether it is a penalty, I do not think it is. It will be viewed as the passenger opting to change the route / itinerary to a more expensive one (which is precisely what happens) and therefore a more expensive price is charged. Penalty is when one charges a super-normal price to repel / discourage a customer, a price that is not anywhere else charged. Here, if CX only charges what a normal HKG-JFK return route costs or whatever the passenger actually flies, how can that be a penalty? That is in fact reality!
#51
My understanding is that you can only change at the "historical fare" if there is A space available. However, CX have zeroed A/C/D/I inventory if your ticket involves Vietnam.
This means that you will be charged the prevailing rate (F/J), which is much higher.
This means that you will be charged the prevailing rate (F/J), which is much higher.
#52
Are there any automated checks for this type of thing? It seems like if you traveled with a carry-on bag and only used a mobile boarding pass you might be able to fly under the radar.
#53
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You would be a 'no-show' for the sector. I guess if the airline wanted to look for a pattern of this for flights HKG-VietNam they could do it, and adjust their handling accordingly. But that's a big 'if' as to whether they will be bothered... unless they want to force more people to cancel.
#54
To clarify a bit, I'm asking because I'm considering ditching my last leg and flying a CX flight to my actual intended destination.
My itinerary is:
JFK-HKG on CX, arrive in the evening
HKG-HAN on KA, depart the next morning
If I book CX flight to my actual indented destination that departs shortly after my arrival on HKG will it be auto-canceled? It doesn't overlap in timing with my next flight, but I'm not sure how things work with CX.
My itinerary is:
JFK-HKG on CX, arrive in the evening
HKG-HAN on KA, depart the next morning
If I book CX flight to my actual indented destination that departs shortly after my arrival on HKG will it be auto-canceled? It doesn't overlap in timing with my next flight, but I'm not sure how things work with CX.
#55
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NYC/SIN
Programs: CX DM, SQ KF
Posts: 2,171
Bring old clothes and an old suitcase for your travel. When you reach the destination, wear and throw. Finally discard suitcase and return with only carry on bags with no need for the airline to check in any baggage.
Seriously I do this for some of my trips. And it's cathartic.
Only thing that can possibly screw this up is if I go overboard with shopping at my destination.
Seriously I do this for some of my trips. And it's cathartic.
Only thing that can possibly screw this up is if I go overboard with shopping at my destination.
#57
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: CX
Posts: 11
CX will be watching mistake tickets very closely. Potentially looking to recoup the bill as much as possible
Does anyone know if inbound-F/outbound-J pax is entitled to F-lounge?
Does anyone know if inbound-F/outbound-J pax is entitled to F-lounge?
Last edited by chunhw2792; Jan 5, 2019 at 11:04 pm
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#60
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Someone wrote about it here..
Last edited by FlyPointyEnd; Jan 6, 2019 at 11:20 pm