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Comrade Crunch Feb 13, 2017 1:27 am


Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666 (Post 27901720)
If this card is just points per dollar spent then it's worthless. I already have 5 cards in my wallet that has a better earning potential than Cathay can offer, WITH bunch of other hotel/airlines/airport benefits.

If Cathay truly wants to offer a meaningful card it has to carry some extra benefits such as:

1) Extra baggage (and/or) weight allowance
2) Lounge certificates
3) At least a 3:1 AM/USD ratio for Cathay expenses, and 2:1 ratio for everything else. Anything lower than that is worthless compare to what's already out there.
4) No foreign transaction fees
5) Free internet for Cathay Pacific flights



And this is just the minimum in my opinion.

Not likely with current management. The 25K bonus is ok if the card is churnable and if its possible to apply every 8-10 days :)

sxc Feb 13, 2017 1:50 am

Link is active:

https://us.cathaypacific.com/offers/credit-card

G-CIVC Feb 13, 2017 2:00 am

So...free GR for 1 year, no FTF, $95 AF, seems like no first year waiver for that.


25,000 BONUS MILES: For new accounts only. Purchases must post to your account within 90 days of account opening to be eligible for this offer. Only one 25,000 bonus miles offer per cardholder account.
Unsure if this implies churnable or not...

Cathay Dragon 666 Feb 13, 2017 6:07 pm

Cathay credit card: 25,000 signup bonus miles (after spending requirement). That is barely 25% of the miles needed for one-round trip ticket if you live in the east coast. Compare that to any AA credit card that gives 50,000 signup bonus miles which is 5/6 of a round-trip ticket.

2x, 1.5x, 1.5x, 1x - I already have 5 credit cards that have multiplier effects that are better and can easily be transfer to AM. They are 3x, 2x, 2x, 2x, 1x.

No foreign transaction fees - good.

Complimentary Green - don't make me laugh.

And... that's it? And they expect $95 annual fee that isn't waive the first year? Now I'm laugh out loud.

Try:

50,000 sign up bonus miles
3x, 2x, 2x, 1.5x
Complimentary Green at opening, and upgrade to Silver tier if one spends over $30,000 USD on the card per year.
Cross-Pacific flights 3rd checked bags at $75 instead of $150
Priority seat assignment regardless of fare class purchase.
First hour of internet use on Cathay Pacific aircrafts free.

That's how you win customers to your credit card. Seriously, with so many excellent points/miles cards out there does Cathay really expect a good amount of people to sign up with their crappy card at $95 a year?

percysmith Feb 13, 2017 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 27894657)
They are all gone for good now. AAdv is actually the new Skypesos because domestic inventory is zeroed out to an absorbing state for forever already

So AA members are still redeeming their miles with us http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...is-f-seat.html

SLGO Feb 13, 2017 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666 (Post 27905351)
Cathay credit card: 25,000 signup bonus miles (after spending requirement). That is barely 25% of the miles needed for one-round trip ticket if you live in the east coast. Compare that to any AA credit card that gives 50,000 signup bonus miles which is 5/6 of a round-trip ticket.

2x, 1.5x, 1.5x, 1x - I already have 5 credit cards that have multiplier effects that are better and can easily be transfer to AM. They are 3x, 2x, 2x, 2x, 1x.

No foreign transaction fees - good.

Complimentary Green - don't make me laugh.

And... that's it? And they expect $95 annual fee that isn't waive the first year? Now I'm laugh out loud.

Try:

50,000 sign up bonus miles
3x, 2x, 2x, 1.5x
Complimentary Green at opening, and upgrade to Silver tier if one spends over $30,000 USD on the card per year.
Cross-Pacific flights 3rd checked bags at $75 instead of $150
Priority seat assignment regardless of fare class purchase.
First hour of internet use on Cathay Pacific aircrafts free.

That's how you win customers to your credit card. Seriously, with so many excellent points/miles cards out there does Cathay really expect a good amount of people to sign up with their crappy card at $95 a year?

The situation is similar even in CX's hometown. The co-branded CX credit card is just not attractive enough when compared to other cards. Mileage exchange rate and AF policy, for example, are surely not the best in the market.

G-CIVC Feb 13, 2017 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 27905406)
So AA members are still redeeming their miles with us http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...is-f-seat.html

Not at 67.5k anymore and not by churning :) (okay, there's been some activity this month and the last, but it's the exception not the norm...)

TWAforever Feb 13, 2017 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666 (Post 27905351)
Cathay credit card: 25,000 signup bonus miles (after spending requirement). That is barely 25% of the miles needed for one-round trip ticket if you live in the east coast. Compare that to any AA credit card that gives 50,000 signup bonus miles which is 5/6 of a round-trip ticket.

2x, 1.5x, 1.5x, 1x - I already have 5 credit cards that have multiplier effects that are better and can easily be transfer to AM. They are 3x, 2x, 2x, 2x, 1x.

No foreign transaction fees - good.

Complimentary Green - don't make me laugh.

And... that's it? And they expect $95 annual fee that isn't waive the first year? Now I'm laugh out loud.

Try:

50,000 sign up bonus miles
3x, 2x, 2x, 1.5x
Complimentary Green at opening, and upgrade to Silver tier if one spends over $30,000 USD on the card per year.
Cross-Pacific flights 3rd checked bags at $75 instead of $150
Priority seat assignment regardless of fare class purchase.
First hour of internet use on Cathay Pacific aircrafts free.

That's how you win customers to your credit card. Seriously, with so many excellent points/miles cards out there does Cathay really expect a good amount of people to sign up with their crappy card at $95 a year?

I hear your frustration, but IMHO, this may not be about winning new customers, but instead providing a new way to earn miles for already existing US-based customers...most likely they already have miles and are earning miles regularly by flying on CX and OW.

TWAforever Feb 13, 2017 9:53 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 27905752)
Not at 67.5k anymore and not by churning :) (okay, there's been some activity this month and the last, but it's the exception not the norm...)

There's still plenty of AA miles out there to burn even at 70k for J and 110k for F. I'd much rather fly CX or JL than AA.

Cathay Dragon 666 Feb 14, 2017 5:29 am


Originally Posted by TWAforever (Post 27905974)
I hear your frustration, but IMHO, this may not be about winning new customers, but instead providing a new way to earn miles for already existing US-based customers...most likely they already have miles and are earning miles regularly by flying on CX and OW.

And my point is with all other better earn-rate credit cards people can easily transfer points to AM: more points, more benefits. Cathay doesn't have to beat their competition in every category but just one or two, but so far Cathay's initial offering loses to the competition in every which way.

AA_EXP09 Feb 14, 2017 9:04 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 27905406)
So AA members are still redeeming their miles with us http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...is-f-seat.html

The elite bonuses that I get with AA and cannot get with CX still make AA a better deal (though I do use CX redemptions purely because it can be easy to get AM living in HK, though only once in a couple years, unlike AA where I can still redeem every year.)

JohnGreat Feb 28, 2017 6:02 pm

Sounds like nobody is getting this offer from Cathay Pacific Visa SignatureŽ card*

TWAforever Feb 28, 2017 9:41 pm

I did apply on 2/13, the first day. Apparently there haven't been instant approvals for this card. I have heard nothing since the app, but yesterday I did get a CreditKarma alert that I have a new account on my credit report and sure enough it is the Cathay Visa, so hopefully I will have the card soon.

I realize the reaction hasn't been very positive for the value prop of this card, but I thought I would give it a try for a year and see what happens. I will gladly receive 25,000 AM for a $95 fee.

N.B., I already have many of the US cards mentioned in this thread.

garykung Feb 28, 2017 11:33 pm


Originally Posted by JohnGreat (Post 27972145)
Sounds like nobody is getting this offer from Cathay Pacific Visa SignatureŽ card*

For $500 more in spending, you can get 5K more AM through Citi TY Premier without the $95 AF.

The only viable benefit of this card is the MPC GR, which you can get it for $100.

What's the point?

This card is DOA before begin.

happyvoid Mar 1, 2017 2:04 am

Also, if you are a silver member but your SO is not a member at all when you book tickets together does it increase your chance of getting upgrade for both persons or is it the same as if the tickets were booked separately?


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