Daffie

I'm not sure who in their right mind would rather travel JFK-DFW-HKG on AA as opposed to JFK-HKG on CX direct. As least for those travelling in J.

For those that are doing thirsty mileage runs in Y / MCE, that's another story.

Enhancements

Exactly.

Plus given how Asia Miles are so easily earned in HK/SE Asia, I doubt the kvetchers would jump to AA if they had to earn at a rate of 1USD/mile for CC.

mkjr

I agree but there are a whole bunch of people out there that look for the easiest way to book something on points. You assume the average person is what you get on FT but 8 out of the ten people around me, well, probably 9 out of the 10 people immediately proximate to me in my office would book this and not bother to call and assume if it was not in the AA booking engine, then it is not available.

percysmith

Do AA members earn their miles at USD1/AA mile?

Why use a "standard" earn rate when their earn is clearly not based on that?

tsz

That sounds painful—the only reason I can think of is someone (for whatever reasons) ABSOLUTELY cannot go 15 hours without Wi-Fi.

RedElmo

With a credit card yes.
Flying, currently, is 1 mile per mile flown.

I recall earning at least 2 Asia miles per mile flow when I bought my last economy CX ticket. That earned twice as much as I would with AA.

Daffie

Not sure what you were exactly flying. Even flying CX F will only get you 1.5X miles.

RedElmo

Hum now that I think about it. It was a RT from the US and one inter Asia flight from eastern china to HK. It earned me over 16k miles on economy.

HKGglobaltrotter

But it's a roundtrip!!! Of course you've earned exactly what you've flown. So your point is....???

jagmeets

And then there's the fact that there aren't any status linked bonus miles to be earned, when banking to Asiamiles..

RedElmo

Thats why i said now that I think about it... I didnt remember that i flew RT or one way when i first posted.

percysmith

(I believe this is a non-EXP) AA has 5-day holds on CX too:

stephem

Just checked in at Vancouver for the first of 2 CX long hauls this weekend and am freeloading in the lounge. Oops that's right, I paid cash for this ticket, so I guess I can enjoy and travel guilt free on "your" airline.

And yes, AA does allow a 5 day hold for partner awards for all members. I bet if you dig around some more you will find even more ways in which AAdvatange beats AM.

tng11

Amazing how so many people on the CX forum are complaining why the race to the bottom isn't moving any faster. Just because CX decides to shaft you with fees doesn't mean that AA needs to follow to be "fair".

And for those complaining that CX is shafting its loyal members by making award seats, then why do you continue to show CX any loyalty at all when it doesn't care about you? I gave up on CX years ago, switched to AA/AS and had a good haul over the last few years.

carmy

I just made the switch to CX 7-8 months ago, and must say it really is bewildering how anyone can stay blindly loyal to CX. Here're some common complaints: inability to get through to MPC/AM, inedible food on board, no status miles for elites, constant cost cutting by management. And this is coming from people frequenting the CX forums, which tends to attract only the most fervent fanboys.

I also know it's fashionable to bash SQ around here, but having been PPS before, I got to say dealing with SQ is so much easier than dealing with MPC. Top that off with better food and service on board (and waaaaay better seats in regional J), I really don't know what there is to complain about.

Having said that, I'm still grudgingly married to CX for now because I live in HK now and can't imagine how long it'll take to get through to reservations if I don't have elite status. I remember trying to call the CX hotline once when I was still banking with QF; I was still listening to Robbie Williams after an hour on the treadmill. (Anyone still remember that Feel song?)

Maybe things will improve if/when I make DM, but til then...