We have known the configuration of the A350-900 for some time (38-28-214), but I don't think we have seen the layout. Some dummy bookings on the newly announced LGW route allow this, to some extent:


Business (1-2-1): 38 seats


Premium Economy (2-4-2): 28 seats


Economy (3-3-3): 214 seats

Seems like 60A and 60K has no seat in front of it, presumably to account for the door protusion?

But wouldn't that put 59A and 59K right in front of the door?

It might be like row 39 on the 77Ws: http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...300er-77g.html

Slightly OT but does anyone know when they might be starting training flights on the A350?

Thanks

Crews are already sim trained but delivery of the aircraft IIRC isn't expected now until March. I expect a few days of pre service inspections would be reasonable.

Not sure if empty training flights will be required if the pilots are ex-A330 drivers since a common type rating is possible (though CX isn't going this route).

I am very disappointed with the configuration of Y+.

I thought it is going to be 2x3x2 not 2x4x2

Not surprising. They are called A350 Extra Wide Body, so they have the same configurations as the 777s. That's 3-3-3 in Y and 2-4-2 in PY. But I assume it is still quite a bit narrower than the 777s?

The A350 is almost a full foot narrower than the 777 across the cabin, although by modern day standard, the 777 is too wide for its intended config.

Many airlines have 10 across on 777 Y, or are moving to that. So 9 across on A350 with just a small foot less in width is good.

or just take airlines that offers more generous seating arrangement. JL on some flights have 34" pitch i am told with wider.seats meaning less abrest.

Ha. I suppose if we call the 737 the "XWB" we can fit 3-3-3 in as well?

Correct, the A350 width...despite the "XWB" moniker...is almost a foot narrower than the 777.

Yep, I think that the 90's-00's generation of aircraft (9 abreast in 777, 8 abreast in A330, 10 abreast in 380) will be the high water mark for economy class comfort.

Looks to be 9 abreast A350 & B787 and 10 abreast B777X for almost all airlines

The biggest problem with the industry move to more abreast in Y is the size of the aisles. Anyone in an aisle seat will get continually bumped by people moving down the aisles - it's almost impossible to avoid on some of the higher density aircraft

Do JL still have their 787s in 2-4-2, or have they also succumbed?

don't forget Airbus' pitch to airlines for 10-abreast A350s....

http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/201...-airbus-pitch/

...which you will be able to "enjoy" on Air Cariabes, proudly being the first airline (that I'm aware of) to take Airbus up on their comfy design

http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/201...t-airbus-a350/

ha but yea, this ultra high density config notwithstanding, you're spot on. the standard going forward is 9 abreast A350/B787, and 10 B777x.

Heck, it seems the days of even B77W 9 across economy are behind us especially if CX converts from 9 to 10 across. Already 2/3 of 77W capacity is 10 abreast, and CX is the second-largest operator of the plane behind EK. Assuming 77W sticks around for another 15+ years as the backbone of carriers' fleets, I think it's a matter of time before 77W is 10 abreast everywhere. Alas.

Oh, and there's also the 11 abreast (downstairs) A380 config being marketed too. http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/201...d-of-customer/

And that's despite Airbus first marketed that the 787 seats are too narrow too. I guess there's nothing stopping the bean counters taking the space to the chopping board in the name of economics. Those bean counters are most likely flying up front anyway so they wouldn't care themselves. It's going to be a really tight squeeze too. Basically, you would get a 777 10-across configuration, and then take an inch out of every seat and aisle.

And I doubt the A380 will get that many sales (if any at all), no matter how it is being marketed.