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percysmith Dec 5, 2015 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 25819207)
The OP is not even an elite but loaded with miles from churning credit cards, a phenomena unique to US. Alas good time is coming to end now AA finally joins the devaluation party. Comes March 22, the CX F would cost 110K one way versus the current bargain of 67.5K. But there will still be one PJ! :p

In his defence I would posit a miles redeemer with plenty of miles across different programs, plenty of flexibility and a willingness to experience different products will have more varied F experiences than a lot of people who's (work) is paying for it and/or is home city/airline centric.

Sadly I lack his flexibility.

KACommuter Dec 6, 2015 4:42 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 25820266)
In his defence I would posit a miles redeemer with plenty of miles across different programs, plenty of flexibility and a willingness to experience different products will have more varied F experiences than a lot of people who's (work) is paying for it and/or is home city/airline centric.

Sadly I lack his flexibility.

Yes, but if the experience is limited to a sample size of one, it's not very representative.

My long haul F experience is exclusively with CX thanks to multiple upgrades as my employers do not pay for it. So I am always curious to know how it stacks up against other airlines. My hunch is the hard product compares pretty well as I have yet to see another airline with a 1-1-1 layout in a 777. As for the soft product I have averaged 3-5 F long hauls a year and have not had a bad experience yet. However I have never asked for a 2nd set of pyjamas...

pantanal Dec 7, 2015 11:04 am

OP..

i have several spare pairs of CX and pretty much other airline pajamas...i can send a spare set over :))

hopefully that will end this thread :))

Madone59 Dec 7, 2015 11:34 am


Originally Posted by pantanal (Post 25826483)
OP..

i have several spare pairs of CX and pretty much other airline pajamas...i can send a spare set over :))

hopefully that will end this thread :))

I'll send you some LH PJ's too if OP would like. :D

DaisyO Dec 7, 2015 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by Kat007 (Post 25787131)

One PJ per person on two leg flight? Too cheap. Asking didn`t yield another one...

For SQ 12 SIN-LAX, SQ gives you two pajamas, one for the SIN-NRT leg and the other for NRT-LAX. However, given the difference of quality between the SQ and CX pajamas, I'd take one CX pair over two SQ ones any day!

lazard Dec 8, 2015 10:24 am


Originally Posted by DaisyO (Post 25828206)
For SQ 12 SIN-LAX, SQ gives you two pajamas, one for the SIN-NRT leg and the other for NRT-LAX. However, given the difference of quality between the SQ and CX pajamas, I'd take one CX pair over two SQ ones any day!

ditto, the PYE PJs are arguably the best quality you can get of all the airlines.

MilesBuzz Dec 8, 2015 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by lazard (Post 25831980)
ditto, the PYE PJs are arguably the best quality you can get of all the airlines.

Agree on that. I actually went back to visit the store at the Landmark to claim the free gift and get more shirts from PYE.

ffs852 Dec 9, 2015 12:29 am


Originally Posted by Kat007 (Post 25786985)
Definitely my least favorite First Class experience - both lounges in HKG and in-flight (CX888) were very poor comparing to other airlines. Non-exciting airline with below average service. :td:

Unfortunately you've picked the wrong forum to post as there are many defenders of the CX faith here despite they all know the CX F/J product is going down the drains quickly. The PYE PJs are heavily sponsored by PYE as a marketing tool and CX doesnt pay much for it. If CX has to foot the bill, I think you will get PJs made out of newspaper.

Just look at EK. You get a inflight amenity bag, PJs plus an unlimited supply of toiletries and real towels in the bathroom despite they are already included in the amenity bag. On CX, everything is rationed, such as DM-only burgers, precious bottles of Evian whereas on EK you have a whole minibar of the much more expensive Voss water to yourself. Same goes for JL, QR and SQ.

The mentality of management of CX and some members here is to compare with the worst, not with the best, since CX is probably a B- student, it feels better to compare with a D/E/F grade student vs the A+s.

Kachjc Dec 9, 2015 12:54 am


Originally Posted by ssw207 (Post 25835769)
Unfortunately you've picked the wrong forum to post as there are many defenders of the CX faith here despite they all know the CX F/J product is going down the drains quickly. The PYE PJs are heavily sponsored by PYE as a marketing tool and CX doesnt pay much for it. If CX has to foot the bill, I think you will get PJs made out of newspaper.

Just look at EK. You get a inflight amenity bag, PJs plus an unlimited supply of toiletries and real towels in the bathroom despite they are already included in the amenity bag. On CX, everything is rationed, such as DM-only burgers, precious bottles of Evian whereas on EK you have a whole minibar of the much more expensive Voss water to yourself. Same goes for JL, QR and SQ.

The mentality of management of CX and some members here is to compare with the worst, not with the best, since CX is probably a B- student, it feels better to compare with a D/E/F grade student vs the A+s.

If B- is getting 1-1-1 and A+ IS GETTING 1-2-1 on the same aircraft

I am all for B-!

1010101 Dec 9, 2015 1:41 am


Originally Posted by ssw207 (Post 25835769)
Just look at EK. You get a inflight amenity bag, PJs plus an unlimited supply of toiletries and real towels in the bathroom despite they are already included in the amenity bag. On CX, everything is rationed, such as DM-only burgers, precious bottles of Evian whereas on EK you have a whole minibar of the much more expensive Voss water to yourself. Same goes for JL, QR and SQ.

Sorry but what ARE you talking about? DM only burgers? Evian v Voss water (really!).

EK is a very good airline indeed, unless you get stuck on one of their slopey seated aircraft, or you forget your sunglasses.

cxfan1960 Dec 9, 2015 1:51 am


Originally Posted by phol (Post 25835974)
Sorry but what ARE you talking about? DM only burgers?

He probably meant the J burgers.

percysmith Dec 9, 2015 1:59 am


Originally Posted by ssw207 (Post 25835769)
On CX, everything is rationed, such as DM-only burgers, precious bottles of Evian


Originally Posted by phol (Post 25835974)
Sorry but what ARE you talking about? DM only burgers?


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 25835993)
He probably meant the J burgers.

Thanks cxfan1960 - I was wondering where can I get a DM-only burger. I got no burger when flying to MXP in J but did when flying to CDG in F. That explains it.

NickB Dec 9, 2015 4:43 am


Originally Posted by ssw207 (Post 25835769)
Unfortunately you've picked the wrong forum to post as there are many defenders of the CX faith
[..]
Just look at EK.

In just about every thread talking about premium products on just about every FT forum, there will be people who will defend the product no matter what, people who will berate the product no matter what and people who feel the need to constantly refer to one or more of the ME3s.

All 3 constituencies are all just as predictable as each other and, to me, all very tiring.

kaka Dec 9, 2015 5:51 am

wait OP came from USA? did he *discreetly* slip in a tip for an extra set of PJs? I'd thought the tip may easily change things - even if he wanted to take home a few bottles of Krug.

moondog Dec 9, 2015 5:53 am


Originally Posted by NickB (Post 25836333)
In just about every thread talking about premium products on just about every FT forum, there will be people who will defend the product no matter what, people who will berate the product no matter what and people who feel the need to constantly refer to one or more of the ME3s.

All 3 constituencies are all just as predictable as each other and, to me, all very tiring.

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