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Daffie Oct 19, 2015 12:12 am


Originally Posted by heman (Post 25583996)
How likely is to get an upgrade from PE to Business for long haul flight when one is not even a member of OW. Asking for friend traveling from SFO to SIN this week.

Sorry, but this is even a question????? :confused::confused::confused:

windchaser777 Oct 19, 2015 2:44 am


Originally Posted by heman (Post 25583996)
How likely is to get an upgrade from PE to Business for long haul flight when one is not even a member of OW. Asking for friend traveling from SFO to SIN this week.

Depends on what kind of upgrade you're asking about. If your friend is wanting to pay to change a revenue PE to J, then as long as there's seats available then it'll be fine.

If you're asking about op-ups, then I can't imagine the process for CX is much different than BA where you're a Silver. Your friend would have to have paid for the highest fare class in PE, to be on an overbooked flight with enough J available to either cater for all of the CX and OneWorld elites on the flight; or have very few elites.

It's hard to tell without knowing exactly which flight your friend is going to be taking, you might be able to check on Expert Flyer for them. But I am reasonably confident in saying I'd have more luck at winning the jackpot in Lotto.

QRC3288 Oct 19, 2015 3:01 am


Originally Posted by heman (Post 25583996)
How likely is to get an upgrade from PE to Business for long haul flight when one is not even a member of OW. Asking for friend traveling from SFO to SIN this week.

Very, very low. Approaching zero. Possible due to a luck-of-the-draw last minute pinch and they grab the nearest body. But realistically, nil.


Originally Posted by windchaser777 (Post 25584350)
If you're asking about op-ups, then I can't imagine the process for CX is much different than BA where you're a Silver. Your friend would have to have paid for the highest fare class in PE, to be on an overbooked flight with enough J available to either cater for all of the CX and OneWorld elites on the flight; or have very few elites.

Fare paid is irrelevant for CX op-ups, fyi. However, you are correct in spirit - it's damn hard for this guy. CX follows the hierarchy priority below, if not exact this chart is close:

CX DMP
CX DM/IN
CX GO
CX staff being ferried for work duty
OW Emerald
CX staff on ID tickets
CX SL
OW Sapphire
CX GR
Asia Miles
No Status

(May not be exact but roughly.)

heman's friend presumably falls at the bottom.

windchaser777 Oct 19, 2015 3:22 am

Thanks for the correction QRC3288. Am I correct in presuming that fare class is the decider for status pax of the same status only then?

QRC3288 Oct 19, 2015 8:00 am


Originally Posted by windchaser777 (Post 25584428)
Thanks for the correction QRC3288. Am I correct in presuming that fare class is the decider for status pax of the same status only then?

No, it isn't. Historically , CX used "boarding number".... Aka who checked in first. Now, apparently CX has/is transitioned/ing to a proprietary calculated "customer intrinsic value" (CIV) score as tiebreaker. I don't think the implementation across ports is uniform, but the gist is they're trying to identify customers they deem of higher value and give them the upgrade in a tiebreaker scenario.

There is someone working for CX mgmt (either a consultant or actually at CX, we're not precisely sure) who interacts on this board semi-regularly. According to him/her, it was emphasized it's a tiebreaker only, and not say prioritizing a Green member over Gold, or Silver over Diamond, etc.

percysmith Oct 19, 2015 12:04 pm

Only on the 20/10 CX873, where it's Y0 right now. Otherwise no flight has the Y0 availability required to upgrade.

cxfan1960 Oct 19, 2015 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 25586410)
Only on the 20/10 CX873, where it's Y0 right now. Otherwise no flight has the Y0 availability required to upgrade.

I had very few few op-ups for CX 873. My last upgrade was 10 months ago from J to F. I had a lot more op-ups for CX 872. There are probably more passengers going for instant upgrades or one-way upgrades for CX 873 because of the longer flying time.

bagman55 Oct 22, 2015 7:07 am

First post - flying CX256 later today in PE - OWE - can someone please check the loadings as I think flight is very full? thanks in advance for your help.

Daffie Oct 22, 2015 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by bagman55 (Post 25600160)
First post - flying CX256 later today in PE - OWE - can someone please check the loadings as I think flight is very full? thanks in advance for your help.

You can sign up for: http://www.expertflyer.com/

huanggy Oct 28, 2015 12:19 pm

Could someone help me check the inventory on CX880 on Oct 30 HKG - LAX. Trying to upgrade from PE to J. I am a OWE and MP Gold. I checked in with MP Gold.

Many thanks.

percysmith Oct 28, 2015 7:55 pm

CX 880 0 HKG 30/10/15 0:15 LAX 29/10/15 21:50 77W Daily 63% / 41m F2 A2 J0 C0 D0 I0 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

cxfan1960 Oct 29, 2015 1:18 am


Originally Posted by huanggy (Post 25628697)
Could someone help me check the inventory on CX880 on Oct 30 HKG - LAX. Trying to upgrade from PE to J. I am a OWE and MP Gold. I checked in with MP Gold.

Many thanks.


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 25630754)
CX 880 0 HKG 30/10/15 0:15 LAX 29/10/15 21:50 77W Daily 63% / 41m F2 A2 J0 C0 D0 I0 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

So PEY-J upgrade should be very difficult, but still possible to try as there is still F availability. CX can still bump someone to F to make room for your upgrade.

huanggy Oct 29, 2015 1:52 am


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 25631741)
So PEY-J upgrade should be very difficult, but still possible to try as there is still F availability. CX can still bump someone to F to make room for your upgrade.

Thanks a lot for the great info. Keeping my fingers crossed.

brianho4489 Nov 5, 2015 7:09 pm

Hi guys! I will be flying PEY from Manchester to Hong Kong in January. I have an upgrade voucher and I want to use it in this journey. Should I use it when I fly from MAN or when I fly back from HKG? And does an upgrade voucher guarantee an upgrade? Or it depends on the availability in J or other factor?

Daffie Nov 6, 2015 12:21 am


Originally Posted by brianho4489 (Post 25670206)
And does an upgrade voucher guarantee an upgrade? Or it depends on the availability in J or other factor?

No. Read last post: One class upgrade appreciation card


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