Does CIV take in account the previous year's travel pattern? Hence looking at it may tell how much more potential "contribution" you have to the MPC with your future travels?

Club points accrued to date will only indicate the past few months travels.

Someone who travels plenty of short hops in economy will have accrued points in just a few months, but someone who travels less frequently but in long haul ( and in PE or higher) will take several months/ an entire year to prove that he has more value/ club points.

CIV is the same as it was before, presumably.

It is not related to your club points.

Club points are just a fancy re-organization for your MPC elite miles. You can basically think of it as elite miles divided by 100. Just all the sectors / classes earn a little differently but same idea. Just like elite miles didn't have any impact on your CIV (and previously BN#), presumably neither do club points.

Hi everyone!

I'm new here, and planning to book some flights on British Airways and hoping to use my asiamiles to upgrade from premium economy to business class. Have read the front page about upgrade a BA flight, but this open jaw tickets and I'm based in UK.

I have not booked yet, but would like to know if I can upgrade the following and if upgradable can you check that specific dates have space upgraded to business class.

22nd May DUB-LHR-SIN
BA 835 (Economy K)
BA 011 (Premium Economy T) or BA 015 (Premium Economy T)

26th May SIN-HKG
CX690 (Premium Economy E)

30th May HKG-LHR
BA032 (Premium Economy T) or BA028 (Premium Economy T)

Would welcome any comments and advices as this sound complicated and asiamiles are taking time to responding me. Since I got a chunk of my miles expiring soon, if I can't upgrade this flights can I book a pair of premium economy tickets (LHR-HKG) and have both upgraded myself and other?

Thanks in advance. :)

https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts#3

"6 For British Airways, only... fare classes W, T and E are eligible for Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus Class) to Business Class Upgrade Awards."

Also has to be a round trip, so it's the LHR-LHR part of your journey only. And you have to clear all upgrade segments on confirmation of upgrade.

Thank you Percy Smith for providing the information so quickly.

If upgrade spaces are available then my journey DUB-LHR are economy and LHR-SIN-HKG-LHR will be upgraded?

That’s ok, since the seat are the more or less the same on intra EU flights and I was more keenly looking forward to long haul LHR-SIN + HKG-LHR for sleep and possibly bonus on the SIN-HKG sector.

How do I clear all upgrade segments? Who do I e-mail or call to? BA? Avios? CX? Asiamiles? Or Marco Polo?

Since both LHR-SIN and HKG-LHR are similar timing I don’t really mind which flights, hence I want to book the one that I can upgrade on if spaces are available. Is there anyway I can search for which specific flights that have space available to be upgraded or not? Or are they hidden in a secret airline search system?

Is the underlying tix one tix? I just called AM, they said your BA tix must be one tix in order to qualify for AM upgrade (I didn't HUACA).

I'm making my first trip on CX to HKG from SFO and am hoping to upgrade from PEY to Business. I'm MP Green for now and I tentatively booked 21 May CX873 a month ago . I am waitlisted for a AM upgrade but the loading (from ExpertFlyer) isn't looking good (J3) as of today. I'm flexible within a day or two; Would it make sense to shift to CX879 (J9), or to 22 MAY CX873 (J7), CX 879 (J9), CX893 (J9)?

absolutely that would make sense. if you're flexible, call MPC and see if they can confirm any of those right now.

No op-up. At check in they confirmed the flight was overbooked in EY and J but that they weren't upgrading OWE at the moment. Funnily enough I got the red light upon scanning my boarding pass at the gate, but this turned out to be because I had forgotten my luggage tags at check in.

That said, first time long haul on CX and I have to say they really look after elites.

1) No, thats not enough. You need 50000 miles if I'm not mistaken.
2) Even if he had enough miles you can't be upgraded on an award ticket. You would have to reissue it yourself.

Thanks QRC3288! I was able to upgrade all my segments to business from PEY with a little last minute flexibility.

On an CX upgrade flight it looks like one gets AM at the base fare rate?

Yes, you get AM based on your original booking fare class.

Yes, one should get miles based on the underlying ticket class, but CX forgot about that quite often in the past (up until about two years ago). They are quite consistent in crediting correct miles now.

CX238 for 27th May is showing
J3 C2 D2 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Is this typical of an overbooked CX flight?
i've booked economy(M) class,also I'm a new MPC green member.
Will i get an upgrade bonus?

It doesn't look likely from here but in case I'm wrong can you report back please?

From seat map it looks like W and Y is chock block full and J can process at most 8 op ups (most likely less than that). So if there are 8 W->J and Y->W then OP would have to bet that there are < 8 DM/GO/EM/SA/SL in EY.

Isn't CIV the correct tiebreaker these days?

(But status is a loose indicator of CIV)

Hi, I'm new here as well. Apologies if this question has been asked before, but I was unable to find it elsewhere.

Can you upgrade a seat using miles twice? For example can I buy an economy seat, upgrade it to premium economy using miles, and then upgrade the same seat again with miles to business class?

Asked another way, does a premium economy seat need to be a revenue ticket in order to be upgradable to business class?

Thanks

No

Yes

Hmm CIV should be the tiebreaker within a tier (e.g. when to opup one DM over another)

And of course unlikely that a GR has a higher CIV than a DM :D

Anyway this is a million dollar question...

Thanks

You have to purchase an upgradable revenue ticket (W or R subclass) for upgrades using Asia Miles.

Hi,

I'm very confused about the terms and conditions when upgrading a British Airways flight with Asia Miles. I see that "Mixed class and mixed carrier awards do not apply to class upgrades and companion tickets."

What happen if I book for example CDG-HND as a return ticket in premium economy. Because the segment CDG-LHR doesn't have a premium economy, so the fare class for that segment is K. However the LHR-HND and HND-LHR fare class is T (which is upgradable for british airways according to https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts).

In that case is the ticket considered mixed class and cannot be upgraded? It seems a bit stupid since it's impossible to book a non mixed class on that trip.

That also applies for CX and KA own flights, not just BA. I guess they figure nobody wants to upgrade a regional or short haul to business and pay for the economy to business upgrade for the entire region/short haul + long haul journey anyway. Or they feel it is too complicated to publish a chart for it.

Anyway, I think K on BA is not upgradable.

Thanks cxfan1960 for your reply. Yes but in that case would the T segments (LHR-HND) be upgradable or would they not be upgradable because the entire flight is mixed class?

If those two segments are upgradable then I'm already more than happy enough. Having economy on the first short haul flights is not a problem.

I'm curious... if you use an upgrade instrument (bookable upgrade mid-tier benefit) can you upgrade yourself again using miles?

No as it will be in A / I / E class it's not eligible for miles upgrade

Can I class be upgraded to Z class?

I class is eligible for upgrade, fyi....

Yes, it can be. the poster above is mistaken.

oops... My bad... Never realized that I is eligible for upgrade...

So R -> I -> Z is possible...?

I is upgradeable for sure, but not sure if the system would allow the process I described...

Hi,

I'm a newbie here. Just wondering if it's possible to do a one-way upgrade to business for CX flight from YYZ to HKG using BA Avios? If so which fare class does this need to be? I'm assuming the ticket purchase and upgrade both happen with BA then?

Thanks a lot.

No, it's not. Only Asia Miles (CX's mileage program) is eligible as an upgrade currency on CX flights.

Also, fyi only PEY fares W and R are eligible for upgrade to business class on that flight. E fare (the cheapest PEY fare class) is not, nor are any regular economy fare classes.

Thanks for the reply. The alternative is to redeem Avios for one way CX business for outbound and buy separate return flight?

If I were to book a CX award ticket via Alaska Mileage Plan, would it be possible to use Asia Miles to upgrade to business? If it makes any difference, I'm trying to plan LAX to HKG or LAX to KUL.

No. You cannot.

Only certain cash fareclasses are eligible for upgrade (ie, not even all cash fareclasses are upgradeable). Goes without saying, no award tickets can be upgraded. The only hope is an op-up, but chances are very low unless you're a CX elite, followed by OWE.

For the interest of anyone else who stumbles across this, the cash sub fareclasses which are upgradeaable using Asia Miles are:

Economy: Y, B, H, K and M
Premium economy: W and R
Business class: All

If your sub-fareclasses is not listed for economy or premium economy above, it is ineligible for an Asia Miles upgrade.

Also, upgrades are only eligible to the next available class. For planes equipped with PEY, this means economy class can only be upgraded to premium economy. For the regional fleet, which doesn't have PEY, you can upgraded economy to business...although for other reasons, I doubt the regulars among us advise this as a good use of your miles, since CX regional biz is nothing to write home about.

Hi all.

Looking to fly CX 883 Sep 9th LAX-HKG. Currently booked in Y+ R class looking to upgrade to J. Expertflyer shows the J cabin as wide open (9+ seats, seat map fairly empty) but we are waitlisted for an upgrade.

A few questions-
Is there is subclass that CX books upgrades into that is searchable on EF? Im assuming no and that you have to call, but double checking.

We are both CX silver, as well as AA EXP. My father in law is CX Gold and has offered to use his miles if it increases our upgrade chances. I know the order of OpUp is DM, Gold, OWE, Silver. Is the same true of AM upgrades?

How does that work with airport upgrades if we dont clear in advance? Since he is not flying with us, Im assuming we would have to change the upgrade request to our own AM accounts (both of us have plenty of miles to cover the upgrade).

Is there separate availability for DM if we were to have another friend confirm the upgrades for us?

Apologies for the list of Qs. We usually fly from JFK and have our upgrades to HKG confirmed right away, but it seems LAX has less upgrade availability. Thank you!

No, EF does not show CX redemption availability.

Yes, his miles will increase your chances.

Yes, the mileage sponsor must be flying with the travelers. My family gets instant upgrades a few times (but also failed a few times, including myself as a DM).

DM has higher priority, and will help. I just did that for my wife for her SFO-HKG flights. She is GO, and I am DM. We were able to clear all her segments instantly with my miles, but not hers.

Things changed. Before 2008, getting a J seat, sometimes even a revenue seat, on the JFK route was so difficult.

Thank you, cxfan.

It looks like we are stuck waiting for an upgrade on the waitlist for now. I suspect the increased availability ex-JFK is because we usually get instant upgrades on the route via YVR, and waitlist for the direct route (which clears about 75% of the time)

Do CX offer cash upgrades? I'm flying OSL-LHR-HKG-NRT all in Y, but if i ask at LHR, will i be able to upgrade the LHR-HKG with cash? And maybe the same from HKG on the return?