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maortega15 Jun 14, 2013 1:32 am

First class to get refresh among other things
 
Basd on the monthly CX staff magazine, First class will get an update starting next month. The update will only be on the 77W as the 744's are progressively being retired. The improvements will consist of colors, touches and trim similar to the one used in the newly rennovated Wing lounge. The fabric will be upgraded to a softer kind, artwork will be added and minor improvements to the workspace such as an adjustable meal table, a new drink holder, improved closet space and a touchscreen controller for seat adjustment.

The new sleep suits will be produced by local HK company, PYE.

Bose QuietComfort headphones will be used.

The washroom is slated to get an improvement consisting of a new sink and countertop.

Will take about a year to complete starting next month.

sxc Jun 14, 2013 1:49 am

PYE = a shirt tailor company, owned by a contract clothing manufacturer. Hmmmm no cachet in that really.

Uli Jun 14, 2013 2:36 am

i dont think this is good enough. CX F "suites" need more privacy. and they need to catch up quickly with competition.

the bathrooms should be updated for sure, as most of them look worn-out already. even for the 744s, i would expect that in F everything looks shiny new at all times. but as cleaning money is being saved, that is not the case.

leaving out the 744s will keep me flying more EK from FRA, as FRA still gets the 744s and that might remain for a long time.

correctioncx Jun 14, 2013 2:58 am


Originally Posted by Uli (Post 20921075)
i dont think this is good enough. CX F "suites" need more privacy. and they need to catch up quickly with competition.

the bathrooms should be updated for sure, as most of them look worn-out already. even for the 744s, i would expect that in F everything looks shiny new at all times. but as cleaning money is being saved, that is not the case.

leaving out the 744s will keep me flying more EK from FRA, as FRA still gets the 744s and that might remain for a long time.

I actually don't think they need more privacy. What they can do is rip out the closet so that there is more leg space. I find the CX suites are the best without the caustrophobic feel of the EK/SQ suites

QRC3288 Jun 14, 2013 3:01 am


Originally Posted by Uli (Post 20921075)
i dont think this is good enough. CX F "suites" need more privacy. and they need to catch up quickly with competition.

I reckon this could start a good debate here, but count me as someone who thinks the CX F seats are quite perfectly designed. And I am almost always a single traveler. I have not tried the new LH F, but hands down CX F beats BA F and SQ regular F (not suites). As a single traveler I think I have a great deal of privacy in the CX F seats because you are seated so far back in the seat, the wall separating you from aisle makes your sitting area very private. While it's true that someone walking by could see you, to me the suites are a good combo of privacy while maintaining the feel of a cabin.

At the absolute worst privacy-wise, in 77W you would have 3 pax max who got a glimpse of you (if you were seated in 1D or 1K, there could be up to 3 other pax using your aisle and walking by), and in 747 the most who would see you is 4 (if you sat in 4A/4D there would be 4 other pax using your aisle). Not to mention, I can only imagine CX F is awesome for couples or groups travelling together. I've flown my parents CX F and it seems very good for a couple.

I'm not one for CX spending money on bling just for the sake of it, I really quite enjoy the design of CX F as it is. The refresh detailed by the OP sounds very reasonable and hopefully they can put some additional money back into booze or food. That's CX (and our?) reward for them designing F right the first time, instead of J class which has already been completely re-designed. Coffin J was rolled out at the same time as F and it had to be redesigned and discarded quickly (which no doubt cost a fair chunk of money).

NYCtraveler Jun 14, 2013 3:41 am

Emirates DOESN'T HAVE FLAT BEDS!!!!
 

Originally Posted by Uli (Post 20921075)
i dont think this is good enough. CX F "suites" need more privacy. and they need to catch up quickly with competition.

the bathrooms should be updated for sure, as most of them look worn-out already. even for the 744s, i would expect that in F everything looks shiny new at all times. but as cleaning money is being saved, that is not the case.

leaving out the 744s will keep me flying more EK from FRA, as FRA still gets the 744s and that might remain for a long time.

I am 6'4 1/2, I have now flown EK twice in F on their Shower enabled A380 and once on one of the other Airbus's. All three times I found the service to be mediocre at best. They might speak 34 languages between them but many of the men and ladies just stand around in the galley chatting and flirting and not working....it is almost like a lack of supervision? They have that Awful coffee and fig served in the beginning. The shower to me is useless as I prefer to sleep or watch a movie onboard as I can shower at the lounge if need be.

Emirates seats have two Epic Fails. 1 The seats DO NOT GO FLAT....they actually go down at the feet. so you are flat until about mid calf and then the seat kinda drops off. When I pointed this out they told me the plane rides at an angle so it is "almost flat".....to which I replied "is that like being almost pregnant" and we had a good laugh. That said, this seat for my height was poor and they put a thin little mattress on it....really nothing and I have slept poorly twice. Thankfully I also have a choice...

The second issue I had with the EK F was the doors to the suite. In order to open the doors you have to turn on the remote controller device, get to the door part through the menus and push the open button....What a pain! When I am waking up from sleep the LAST thing I want to do is fight with a remote control to open the doors of my suite....The flight attendant said most people don't like the device however they like the doors..... I could care less.

Cathays soft product is comfortable, roomy, private,fully flat and LONG and might be without the bells and whistles of EK but is a far more comfortable product for me. The selection of movies and TV shows with the adjustable screen far beats Emirates and I like very much the Asian inspired dishes etc. With a full cabin, Cathays service trumps Emirates every time IMHO.

Safe travels to all!

ANZ787900 Jun 14, 2013 5:00 am

Well they've finally gone for Bose headsets.. Let's hope this can filter down to the Business Cabin too. Doesn't mind me - I have my own pair.

CanucksHKG Jun 14, 2013 5:06 am

so what are the.... "other things" beside F seat refresh ?

mayodave Jun 14, 2013 6:48 am

Having tried many other options in F I have to say CX is brilliant. I have never had any issue with the product. My wife loves it as well. Never seen a dirty bathroom in F. Done hundreds of thousands of miles in F and frankly its hard to get it much better.

Kachjc Jun 14, 2013 2:45 pm

the last thing CX needs to do is to put its passengers into glorified prison cells!!

The CX seat is unique and extremely successful- glad management know that and are not tampering with it too much

jfkcnf Jun 14, 2013 3:05 pm

When they asked me to complete the feedback survey about a month ago, the 2 items I gave them bad feedback on were
- bathrooms
- audio quality/headset

:)

JALPak Jun 14, 2013 3:48 pm

You can see the original article here http://downloads.cathaypacific.com/c...index.html#/2/

CanucksHKG Jun 14, 2013 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 20924797)
You can see the original article here http://downloads.cathaypacific.com/c...index.html#/2/

Thanks JALPak.
I was wondering if there's a source/link to the news.

KACommuter Jun 14, 2013 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 20921137)
I reckon this could start a good debate here, but count me as someone who thinks the CX F seats are quite perfectly designed. And I am almost always a single traveler. I have not tried the new LH F, but hands down CX F beats BA F and SQ regular F (not suites).

^^^

Kachjc Jun 14, 2013 5:47 pm

I wonder when pictures will be released?

not sure the grey and burgundy combination will work!


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