another, its the end of CX article!
Dec 14, 2012 | 7:30 pm
#31
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may be HKers in general do not like LCC, they probably like the idea of getting food(even if it is not really food on some of these regional flights!)
HX has been around for a long time, so has air asia/jetstar
also mainland airlines generally have lower average ticket prices than cathay, yet dragonair/cathay dominate.
Dec 15, 2012 | 5:55 am
#32
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From my angle, going ex-TPE to places like SIN and KUL, the LCCs often cost more than even CX, for both economy and business. Can I rub it in a little more -- Air Asia X premium costing the same or more than CX business class.
Are you saying that I should ignore all the lounges I get to access, and all the extra food and baggage allowances and mileage provided to me, just because CX might fail in the long run to my peril? Cos I'll do whatever you say...
Dec 16, 2012 | 5:33 am
#33
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Reply to some of the posts above:
is CX even a recognized name in china?? many chinese I know do not even know of CX and get shocked(when they eventually find / fly CX) to see that there is a chinese airline that has good service.
SWIRE PACIFIC IS A UK DOMICILED COMPANY NOT CHINESE even though Air China has a shareholding in the airline
in terms of slots and capacity im sure CX will win good rights when the 3rd runway is opened,
I agree slots is now a major issue for Hong Kong airlines, at least for the next few years until 3rd runway
THE 3RD RUNWAY IS BY NO MEANS A CERTAINTY AND THEY HAVE TO PRODUCE AN SROI AS WELL AS PASS AN EIA AND THE CHINESE PLA AIRFORCE CONTROLS LANDING SLOTS
Most Chinese I know however did fly china southern!!!-the supposed greatest threat to CX
AirAsia buys 100 Airbus A320s and A320neos jets
Saturday, 15 December, 2012, 12:00am Bloomberg
AirAsia, the region's biggest discount airline, unveiled an order for 100 additional Airbus A320 jetsThe order included 36 current-generation A320s and 64 fuel-efficient A320neos, Airbus said yesterday
is CX even a recognized name in china?? many chinese I know do not even know of CX and get shocked(when they eventually find / fly CX) to see that there is a chinese airline that has good service.
SWIRE PACIFIC IS A UK DOMICILED COMPANY NOT CHINESE even though Air China has a shareholding in the airline
in terms of slots and capacity im sure CX will win good rights when the 3rd runway is opened,
I agree slots is now a major issue for Hong Kong airlines, at least for the next few years until 3rd runway
THE 3RD RUNWAY IS BY NO MEANS A CERTAINTY AND THEY HAVE TO PRODUCE AN SROI AS WELL AS PASS AN EIA AND THE CHINESE PLA AIRFORCE CONTROLS LANDING SLOTS
Most Chinese I know however did fly china southern!!!-the supposed greatest threat to CX
AirAsia buys 100 Airbus A320s and A320neos jets
Saturday, 15 December, 2012, 12:00am Bloomberg
AirAsia, the region's biggest discount airline, unveiled an order for 100 additional Airbus A320 jetsThe order included 36 current-generation A320s and 64 fuel-efficient A320neos, Airbus said yesterday
Dec 17, 2012 | 1:57 pm
#36
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As for expansion, CX should take a more aggressive approach. KA's success in Chinese market shows the Chinese are not looking at cheap flights, but airlines that can provide Great Service. Unfortunately CX/KA are only allowed to have HKG as hub. If China allows CX/KA to another another hub or two in China, CX and KA will start racking in a ton of intra-China traffic profits.
Dec 17, 2012 | 2:11 pm
#37
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CX will go the same way as HKG. Down, down, down.
For Y pax, fares are 30% higher than any other carrier (to Europe) for a so so service, the MPC way worse than BA EC and now with direct Taiwan-Mainland flights the milk cow is dead. More worryingly flights from Europe or the US to China (even on mainland carriers) are more convenient and connections trough TPE are more and more attractive with CI in ST and BR getting soon to Star.
CX's only strength is the SEA, India network, and KA (for local HK people). Geographically and time wise transit trough HKG makes no sense and is a lost of $$ and time, plus most of the bizz is shifting to Northern China.
I believe CX can survive as a niche market carrier for HK, but I don't see how the airline makes sense in the greater picture with or without a 3rd runway.
For Y pax, fares are 30% higher than any other carrier (to Europe) for a so so service, the MPC way worse than BA EC and now with direct Taiwan-Mainland flights the milk cow is dead. More worryingly flights from Europe or the US to China (even on mainland carriers) are more convenient and connections trough TPE are more and more attractive with CI in ST and BR getting soon to Star.
CX's only strength is the SEA, India network, and KA (for local HK people). Geographically and time wise transit trough HKG makes no sense and is a lost of $$ and time, plus most of the bizz is shifting to Northern China.
I believe CX can survive as a niche market carrier for HK, but I don't see how the airline makes sense in the greater picture with or without a 3rd runway.
To me, HKG hub will remain one of the most important global hub and CX/KA will remain the largest operator there.