Devaluation of AM due to Y+?
Jun 25, 2012 | 3:42 am
#1
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Devaluation of AM due to Y+?
Previously, one used to be able to upgrade a RT from HKG-LHR-HKG on BA from Y+ to J for 30,000 AM.
Now, according to the new award chart the same upgrade requires 70,000 AM.
How in the world can that possibly be correct? Is this another programme enhancement offered by CX to its' frequent flyers?
Now, according to the new award chart the same upgrade requires 70,000 AM.
How in the world can that possibly be correct? Is this another programme enhancement offered by CX to its' frequent flyers?
Jun 25, 2012 | 11:04 pm
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Previously, one used to be able to upgrade a RT from HKG-LHR-HKG on BA from Y+ to J for 30,000 AM.
Now, according to the new award chart the same upgrade requires 70,000 AM.
How in the world can that possibly be correct? Is this another programme enhancement offered by CX to its' frequent flyers?
Now, according to the new award chart the same upgrade requires 70,000 AM.
How in the world can that possibly be correct? Is this another programme enhancement offered by CX to its' frequent flyers?
Jun 25, 2012 | 11:41 pm
#3
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The OP is referring to BA upgrades however, and yes it looks like they have aligned upgrade redemption on BA to the upgrade redemption rates on CX resulting in a devaluation.
Jun 26, 2012 | 1:14 am
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Jun 26, 2012 | 1:19 am
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...-j-y-j.html#12
Straight's relatively attractive now. In any case given a choice between full redemption and upgrade (same availability), I'd go for straight redemption and burn more miles.
But that does mean we lose flexibility when we're running low on miles...miles are slightly devalued as a result.
But that does mean we lose flexibility when we're running low on miles...miles are slightly devalued as a result.
Jun 26, 2012 | 2:04 am
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Perhaps my post title was unclear, but I don't think post #1 was.
My complaint is not that we cannot upgrade from Y to J if Y+ exists or that upgrades on CX from Y+ to J are the same as Y to J.
My complaint is specifically that upgrades on BA from Y+ to J, which could be done before CX introduced Y+, now appear to have more than doubled in cost, which simply makes no sense at all.
My complaint is not that we cannot upgrade from Y to J if Y+ exists or that upgrades on CX from Y+ to J are the same as Y to J.
My complaint is specifically that upgrades on BA from Y+ to J, which could be done before CX introduced Y+, now appear to have more than doubled in cost, which simply makes no sense at all.
Jun 26, 2012 | 2:13 am
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I guess the "sense" is that CX determined that it should be 70,000 miles to upgrade from Y+ to J on its own aircraft, and therefore there shouldn't be a different rate if you are flying BA. That's their thinking - do I like it? No, but that is the reasoning.
Jun 26, 2012 | 5:28 am
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The AM redemption chart still shows 30000mi for BA. However, I don't think this will last long, given the reasoning stated by sxc.
http://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts
5.For British Airways flight, miles required for one-class Upgrade from economy (World Traveller) to round-trip Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus Class) award, or from Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus) to round-trip Business award is 50% of the equivalent round-trip Economy Class (World Traveller Class) award. For flights do not have Premium Economy Class (World Traveller Plus), upgrade from Economy to Business is allowed.