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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 1:44 pm
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Transfer at LAX

We will arrive at LAX (terminal 5) from MEM on a DL flight at approximately 22:00. We will then transfer to TBIT for a trip to HGK departing at 01:30 on Cathay Pacific (CP 881) These two flights are on separate records. My questions: Will DL check the luggage thru to final destination (Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific)? Secondly, if not, do we have sufficient time to collect checked luggage and walk to TBIT to check in at Cathay Pacific for the Hong Kong flight?
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 2:18 pm
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Show the DL agent at MEM your CX itinerary for HKG and they should check your bags thru to HKG for you.

In the rare case that they will not (I'm pretty certain they will), three and a half hours would be plenty of time to claim the bags and walk over to TBIT and check them in with CX. From the Delta terminal, just walk toward the AA terminal (T-4) and then another hundred yards or so beyond the AA terminal is the TBIT.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 8:55 pm
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I wouldn't do it even if DL will cooperate. Perhaps I'm just too risk averse, but I see loads of opportunities for your bags to be lost in that scenario. You have plenty of time. On the DL flight, check your bags to LAX only. Don't even tell them about the CX flight. Then claim them, walk to TBIT and check them directly with CX. Even if only a small chance of loss, you reduce it greatly with this approach.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 9:08 pm
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Well then what if you're connecting to another Oneworld partner like AA? Would that be trustworthy enough to checkin a back from HKG all the way to DFW?
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 9:35 pm
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We are going to walk bags over--will reduce lost baggage issue and it sounds like we have time--thanks to all--looking fwd to new business class seats!
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 9:55 pm
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I flew MSP-LAX on DL and CX LAX-HKG-CGK on two different tickets (the DL was an award). I was able to check my bags at MSP all the way to CGK with no problems.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 10:36 pm
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A quick similar question. With only 50 minutes of transit from domestic arrival to LAX to international LAX (AA all the way so baggage should be able to checked all the way from origin), is that feasible?
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 12:26 am
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Neither CX nor AA will issue a ticket with only 50 minutes domestic to int'l travel time at LAX, as the legal transit I think is 90 minutes. Fifty minutes is really pushing it anyway. Even if the AA flight arrives on time, it takes 10 minutes to speed from the gate to TBIT. The lines to get through security at TBIT, even the priority lines, can easily take 20-30 minutes. The slightest snag and you are sunk.

Anyway, upon arrival at TBIT, you should still check in with CX and make them aware of your baggage tags (they will enter them in the computer and make sure that they have arrived and are loaded). When you board, you can always ask the agents at the gate to confirm your bags are on board. Many times they've offered this info to me w/o me even asking.

If you split the tickets and you miss the CX flight, neither airline would be required to protect you.

As for interlining baggage from Delta, if it makes you feel better to claim your luggage and lug it to TBIT, after which you need to put it through the X-ray machine and then take it to the ticket counter, then do it. However, I think Delta is a competent airline and they deal with interlining bags countless times a day. Again, give CX your baggage tags when you re-check in and they'll call downstairs to keep an eye out for your bags and put the priority tags on them. I personally wouldn't give a second thought to interlining my bags, especially on a 3.5-hour layover, but of course everyone's different.
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 4:07 am
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Since Cathayboy is on AA-AA the minimum connection time is 40 min. Arrival and departure is inside the same terminal, no immigration etc when leaving the US. 50 min is very doable when things are on time.


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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 9:37 am
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[QUOTE=Unterwegs;18217256]Since Cathayboy is on AA-AA the minimum connection time is 40 min. Arrival and departure is inside the same terminal, no immigration etc when leaving the US. 50 min is very doable when things are on time.]


It could get interesting if CB's in bound gets sent to a remote gate. This seems to add 20-30 mins as they off load pax to buses to trek around LAX and eventually arrive at main term 4. Good luck CB.
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Cathay Boy
A quick similar question. With only 50 minutes of transit from domestic arrival to LAX to international LAX (AA all the way so baggage should be able to checked all the way from origin), is that feasible?
AA metal international flights depart from the regular AA terminal, T4. Assuming an on-time arrival, both you and your bags will probably make it. Unless, of course, you're arriving on Eagle, from the infamous gate 44, which is merely a portal to a bus which takes you to/from the Eagle "terminal" near the beginning of runway 25R. If you're on Eagle, you may well have a problem. I would tell your FA on the inbound and ask him/her to alert the departing gate agent of your Eagle arrival.

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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
I wouldn't do it even if DL will cooperate. Perhaps I'm just too risk averse, but I see loads of opportunities for your bags to be lost in that scenario. You have plenty of time. On the DL flight, check your bags to LAX only. Don't even tell them about the CX flight. Then claim them, walk to TBIT and check them directly with CX. Even if only a small chance of loss, you reduce it greatly with this approach.
How about baggage fee?
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by GE90-115B
Well then what if you're connecting to another Oneworld partner like AA? Would that be trustworthy enough to checkin a back from HKG all the way to DFW?
I regularly do AA-CX interline baggage check and it works fine. Most recently I flew ORD-YYZ-HKG and I had to clear Canadian customs at YYZ and put my bags on the transfer belt.

Not only did my bags arrive in HKG without problems, but after I put them back on the transfer belt at YYZ, someone at CX had found my bag and put a CX J Class priority baggage label on it. ^
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by garykung
How about baggage fee?
I was also thinking that OP may potentially have the baggage fee waived by DL if checking-in all the way to CX (in case the OP was not eligible for that through other mean). This is subject to DL, however.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by garykung
How about baggage fee?
Doesn't matter to me. For me, the calculus is baggage fee versus stress of a misconnected bag. Paticularly on this itinerary, what if the OP's bag(s) are misrouted from MEM to, say, MFE? OP will be in or on his/her way to HKG while the bags are....?
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