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Jan 17, 2012 | 6:20 am
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Just out of curiosity, given HKG is only a few hundred miles away from TPE, if they had some 744ER, then they wouldn't need to stop? Although if you are talking about a stop in ICN, then I'm pretty sure even the 744ER wouldn't make it back to HKG unless it glides in.
Jan 17, 2012 | 7:05 am
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I guess it just not worth another subfleet of like 5 744ER for one route. It's only 1-2 months of each year you have such issue and CX is clear to go with 77W anyway
I guess it just not worth another subfleet of like 5 744ER for one route. It's only 1-2 months of each year you have such issue and CX is clear to go with 77W anyway
Jan 17, 2012 | 7:43 pm
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Jan 17, 2012 | 8:06 pm
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Just out of curiosity, given HKG is only a few hundred miles away from TPE, if they had some 744ER, then they wouldn't need to stop? Although if you are talking about a stop in ICN, then I'm pretty sure even the 744ER wouldn't make it back to HKG unless it glides in.
Route issue or load?
Jan 17, 2012 | 9:45 pm
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Jan 18, 2012 | 11:09 am
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For the record (based on Wikipedia) - 744 max range is 7260 and 773ER is 7930.
So when SQ 773ER does not have fuel issue, it is understandable that CX 744 need to divert to refuel.
How about CX 773ER does not have fuel issue, but neither UA has (UA uses 744)?
Jan 18, 2012 | 12:50 pm
#24
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As to why UA 744s never seem to divert, I believe it is due to weight. UA doesn't have PTVs in Y, which makes the planes that much lighter (PTV boxes and cables take up a fair bit of weight). UA 744s also have PW engines, which are slightly more fuel efficient than the RR engines that CX has on most of their 744s.
Jan 18, 2012 | 9:38 pm
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As to why UA 744s never seem to divert, I believe it is due to weight. UA doesn't have PTVs in Y, which makes the planes that much lighter (PTV boxes and cables take up a fair bit of weight). UA 744s also have PW engines, which are slightly more fuel efficient than the RR engines that CX has on most of their 744s.
Jan 18, 2012 | 9:46 pm
#26
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Looks like CX 873 which is the evening departure 744 flight SFO-HKG has done it again on 1/18 (TPE). So twice this week (1/16 and 1/18) so far ...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA873
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA873
Jan 19, 2012 | 12:07 am
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Jan 19, 2012 | 11:23 am
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In SFO lounge now. CX 879 is delayed an hour so we are told at check in.
Does CX overnight its plane at SFO for the 879 morning departure? If so, what might be the reason for the delay?
We are told that the arrival time would only be 25 minutes late at 7:05PM - yeah I will believe it when we actually depart at 1PM and do not need a tech stop.
Does CX overnight its plane at SFO for the 879 morning departure? If so, what might be the reason for the delay?
We are told that the arrival time would only be 25 minutes late at 7:05PM - yeah I will believe it when we actually depart at 1PM and do not need a tech stop.
Jan 19, 2012 | 11:44 am
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