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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 6:54 am
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does this include CX ?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/1...7BE01D20111215 news report that China's aviation body is urging its members not to comply
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I wouldn't think so. It looks as if its only mainland China carriers.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 7:37 am
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i wonder what can china do (besides retaliate) if each and every EU airport raises airport fees in place of carbon-related charges
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Exactly what I was thinking, I thought CX would actually now be part of the China aviation body actually
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 8:41 am
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CX is regulation by the HK government which has its own laws and regulations. Therefore, CX would be obliged to comply with HK government instructions but not China?

That's my understanding anyway.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 9:33 am
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CX is managed by the Civil Aviation Department, which is separate from the Mainland. CX will not be affected by this.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 9:34 am
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Quick quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_A...8Hong_Kong%29:

During British rule, CAD was not a sub-unit of the Civil Aviation Authority (United Kingdom). Since 1997, CAD maintains independence from the Civil Aviation Administration of China.
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Originally Posted by CX HK
CX is managed by the Civil Aviation Department, which is separate from the Mainland. CX will not be affected by this.
However, Air China owns a significant share of CX. Will that affect?

No one knows.

Beside, the CO2 idea is kind of stupid anyway.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 12:48 pm
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However, Air China owns a significant share of CX. Will that affect?

No one knows.

Beside, the CO2 idea is kind of stupid anyway.
Significant, but not most significant - that honor belongs to Swire. I won't go into whether or not the CO2 idea is "good" or "bad", but if you want to play in the European markets you play by the European rules. When companies do business in China, they follow the Chinese rules of doing business.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 7:17 pm
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Indeed. But technically if the china govt pushes thru if they really wants to, hk govt would pressurise cx. But thats a topic for omni...
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by bendachentaiwan
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/1...7BE01D20111215 news report that China's aviation body is urging its members not to comply
The news is coming from an airlines trades group, not the CAAC, which is the regulatory body. The airlines themselves won't be protesting drastically unless they got the approvals from higher ups in the government beyond the CAAC.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 10:28 pm
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Carbon trading schemes is essentially taxing airlines to subsidise environmental projects. It's never popular with the parties being taxed.

And I don't understand the protectionist allegation either - it's not like AF or LH will need to buy less credits than CA or CX?
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:02 pm
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They just *dont want* to participate in china. In line with their non participation in the treaties
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