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Old May 13, 2011 | 11:39 am
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Op-up?

I've been reading alot regarding op-upgrades. How does this work?
Do you have to buy a full fare CX ticket and be a silver member or higher?
IF there's an open J class ticket they automatically upgrade you for free?

Or it allows you to request for an upgrade and charge you points?
Some trip report people reference YO BO HO KO etc.. what do these mean?
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Old May 13, 2011 | 12:59 pm
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Please read the CX FAQ for more info.

In terms of operational upgrades, this means that these will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes
Op-ups do not deduct asia miles from a passenger nor does it ask them to pay for the upgrade. They are based on status (please check the link for the ranking system of op-ups). Because upgrades happen due to operational issues, you will not suddenly get an upgrade when there's a free seat in J class nor can you request for one.

Experience indicates that the fare class you buy does not affect your chances of op up.

However, in the events of several members with the same status, your boarding number (ie. the order you check in) contributes to your chances. It essentially means that if there is only one seat available for op-up from Y to J, and there are two diamond members on the flight, the person that checked in first (with the lower BN) will get the op-up.

Y B H and K are the top (in terms of revenue) fare classes for economy tickets. The 0 (not an O) behind it is the availability of seats for each fare class. So Y0 B0 H0 K0 would essentially mean that the flight is sold out in economy, thus indicating a higher chance for op-up.
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Old May 13, 2011 | 2:29 pm
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Thanks for the info. Where do you find the Y0 H0 K0 info?
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Old May 13, 2011 | 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by hqly2001
Thanks for the info. Where do you find the Y0 H0 K0 info?
Use either the:

KVS Availability Tool:
http://www.kvstool.com/

or

Expert Flyer:
http://www.expertflyer.com/
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Old May 14, 2011 | 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by CX HK
Use either the:

KVS Availability Tool:
http://www.kvstool.com/

or

Expert Flyer:
http://www.expertflyer.com/
...or FlightStats's free flight availability tool (but you have to create an account first). Go to www.flightstats.com and find it under the "Travel Planning" tab.
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Old May 14, 2011 | 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by toyotaboy95
...or FlightStats's free flight availability tool (but you have to create an account first). Go to www.flightstats.com and find it under the "Travel Planning" tab.
Interesting - I was not aware of this feature from FlightStats - thanks! ^
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Old May 14, 2011 | 6:23 pm
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Learn something new every day. This is cool, thanks for the flightstats tip!
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Old May 15, 2011 | 3:07 am
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Originally Posted by toyotaboy95
...or FlightStats's free flight availability tool (but you have to create an account first). Go to www.flightstats.com and find it under the "Travel Planning" tab.
Hmmm... if it is really that good it's great. Save me the $100+ USD I need for ExpertFlyer. I know ExpertFlyer can do many other things but the primary function I need is availability of each individual fares.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Cathay Boy
Hmmm... if it is really that good it's great. Save me the $100+ USD I need for ExpertFlyer. I know ExpertFlyer can do many other things but the primary function I need is availability of each individual fares.
i`m not so sure about the quality. Got op-upped on flights I didn`t expect and didn`t get it when I was kind of hoping for it.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by toyotaboy95
...or FlightStats's free flight availability tool (but you have to create an account first). Go to www.flightstats.com and find it under the "Travel Planning" tab.
Is the information on flightstats.com up to date? If I'm merely interested in the availability of a particular fare class, is it any different from KVS/EF?
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Old May 15, 2011 | 3:48 pm
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i`m not so sure about the quality. Got op-upped on flights I didn`t expect and didn`t get it when I was kind of hoping for it.
In absolute agreement with Mrtnw.. The service, for me, was too unreliable to base any travel decisions around. Hence i cancelled my subscription.

A call to MPC usually does the trick for CX bookings.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 11:55 pm
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If you check in while standing on your hands, you'll get an op-up.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 12:03 am
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Will the following factors affect the successful rate of getting an op-up?
1.Using Online Check in
2.Using the in-town check in counters at HKG
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Old May 16, 2011 | 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by derek2010
Will the following factors affect the successful rate of getting an op-up?
1.Using Online Check in
2.Using the in-town check in counters at HKG
As said before (many, many times) the thing that does seem to have influence is a low BN, so online check-in at T-48 might help you.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by Mrtnw
As said before (many, many times) the thing that does seem to have influence is a low BN, so online check-in at T-48 might help you.
Those check ins go quick. I checked in a minute late - no more than 60 seconds - and I am already BN 3. A few minutes and your BN could be in the teens or 20's.
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