Advanced elite status based on bookings possible?
#1
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Advanced elite status based on bookings possible?
I have decided Cathay is the best program for my boss (seriously dont laugh)
He`s looking to fly fortnightly from CTS to SYD (via HKG) to CBR in Y probably is class H probably with Cathay earning 100% EQM.
I asked theclub@c...... whether they would be interested in offering advanced status based on these bookings (i did mentioned i could book more in advanced if required) and their reply was to tell me how to become an elite member and the criteria and sign up fee like i am some sort of idiot. They would not even waive his MPC fee.
He should reach Gold with them easy next year and Diamond the year after with the possibility of reaching Diamond next year if they give him the Silver head start. I realise he is only flying Y and they probably dont give a hoot about Y travel but i am hoping someone here knows someone i can contact who might be interested in helping with my request or am i being unreasonable? As i said i should be able to book about 6 or so months worth of travel upfront if they give the go ahead.
Also does Cathay have a status buy up like AA where you can buy airline credit to spend on flights up front in order to get elite status? (not entirely sure whether i imagined this but i think it exist or did exist)
The other option is he flies with JAL which he personally prefers which i am fighting hard to change his mind.
He`s looking to fly fortnightly from CTS to SYD (via HKG) to CBR in Y probably is class H probably with Cathay earning 100% EQM.
I asked theclub@c...... whether they would be interested in offering advanced status based on these bookings (i did mentioned i could book more in advanced if required) and their reply was to tell me how to become an elite member and the criteria and sign up fee like i am some sort of idiot. They would not even waive his MPC fee.
He should reach Gold with them easy next year and Diamond the year after with the possibility of reaching Diamond next year if they give him the Silver head start. I realise he is only flying Y and they probably dont give a hoot about Y travel but i am hoping someone here knows someone i can contact who might be interested in helping with my request or am i being unreasonable? As i said i should be able to book about 6 or so months worth of travel upfront if they give the go ahead.
Also does Cathay have a status buy up like AA where you can buy airline credit to spend on flights up front in order to get elite status? (not entirely sure whether i imagined this but i think it exist or did exist)
The other option is he flies with JAL which he personally prefers which i am fighting hard to change his mind.
#2
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I have decided Cathay is the best program for my boss (seriously dont laugh)
He`s looking to fly fortnightly from CTS to SYD (via HKG) to CBR in Y probably is class H probably with Cathay earning 100% EQM.
I asked theclub@c...... whether they would be interested in offering advanced status based on these bookings (i did mentioned i could book more in advanced if required) and their reply was to tell me how to become an elite member and the criteria and sign up fee like i am some sort of idiot. They would not even waive his MPC fee.
He should reach Gold with them easy next year and Diamond the year after with the possibility of reaching Diamond next year if they give him the Silver head start. I realise he is only flying Y and they probably dont give a hoot about Y travel but i am hoping someone here knows someone i can contact who might be interested in helping with my request or am i being unreasonable? As i said i should be able to book about 6 or so months worth of travel upfront if they give the go ahead.
Also does Cathay have a status buy up like AA where you can buy airline credit to spend on flights up front in order to get elite status? (not entirely sure whether i imagined this but i think it exist or did exist)
The other option is he flies with JAL which he personally prefers which i am fighting hard to change his mind.
He`s looking to fly fortnightly from CTS to SYD (via HKG) to CBR in Y probably is class H probably with Cathay earning 100% EQM.
I asked theclub@c...... whether they would be interested in offering advanced status based on these bookings (i did mentioned i could book more in advanced if required) and their reply was to tell me how to become an elite member and the criteria and sign up fee like i am some sort of idiot. They would not even waive his MPC fee.
He should reach Gold with them easy next year and Diamond the year after with the possibility of reaching Diamond next year if they give him the Silver head start. I realise he is only flying Y and they probably dont give a hoot about Y travel but i am hoping someone here knows someone i can contact who might be interested in helping with my request or am i being unreasonable? As i said i should be able to book about 6 or so months worth of travel upfront if they give the go ahead.
Also does Cathay have a status buy up like AA where you can buy airline credit to spend on flights up front in order to get elite status? (not entirely sure whether i imagined this but i think it exist or did exist)
The other option is he flies with JAL which he personally prefers which i am fighting hard to change his mind.
One would think for US$50,000 in revenues they would be open to comping silver status in advance, though I think it's not that likely.
It would help your cause if he had existing elite status on another airline and could demonstrate that to MPC, and say he would switch his business to CX if they gave him some consideration on a comp to silver. Would help even more if you had old tickets on the same route.
If I was doing this fortnightly for a year or more, NO WAY would I opt for CX which looks like an extra 6 hours travel time outbound to SYD and 3 hours on the return over some of the JL options. As a boss, I wouldn't be thrilled to have someone pushing hard to get me to consider the more travel intensive option, especially if I already preferred the other option.
#3
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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No status buy ups.
One would think for US$50,000 in revenues they would be open to comping silver status in advance, though I think it's not that likely.
It would help your cause if he had existing elite status on another airline and could demonstrate that to MPC, and say he would switch his business to CX if they gave him some consideration on a comp to silver. Would help even more if you had old tickets on the same route.
If I was doing this fortnightly for a year or more, NO WAY would I opt for CX which looks like an extra 6 hours travel time outbound to SYD and 3 hours on the return over some of the JL options. As a boss, I wouldn't be thrilled to have someone pushing hard to get me to consider the more travel intensive option, especially if I already preferred the other option.
One would think for US$50,000 in revenues they would be open to comping silver status in advance, though I think it's not that likely.
It would help your cause if he had existing elite status on another airline and could demonstrate that to MPC, and say he would switch his business to CX if they gave him some consideration on a comp to silver. Would help even more if you had old tickets on the same route.
If I was doing this fortnightly for a year or more, NO WAY would I opt for CX which looks like an extra 6 hours travel time outbound to SYD and 3 hours on the return over some of the JL options. As a boss, I wouldn't be thrilled to have someone pushing hard to get me to consider the more travel intensive option, especially if I already preferred the other option.
You`re right if he was doing a status match they would be all over it but from what i heard Cathay seems like a flexible airline that i thought might be interested but i could be wrong. The boss will be thrilled if he can chill out in the overcrowded lounge in HKG though!
#4
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Yes but he would be flying into NRT from SYD which there are only 2 flights or something a day on the NRT > CTS leg so actually this is a better options transfer wise too and he doesnt have to check his luggage in twice which is what he would have to do for the JAL SYD>NRT>CTS but the biggest benefit of MPC is the guaranteed seating plus lets face it ... they look after their elites overall better.
You`re right if he was doing a status match they would be all over it but from what i heard Cathay seems like a flexible airline that i thought might be interested but i could be wrong. The boss will be thrilled if he can chill out in the overcrowded lounge in HKG though!
You`re right if he was doing a status match they would be all over it but from what i heard Cathay seems like a flexible airline that i thought might be interested but i could be wrong. The boss will be thrilled if he can chill out in the overcrowded lounge in HKG though!
It stinks I'm sure, but flying patterns can change very suddenly. I suspect CX and other airlines have seen plenty of instances where they comp status, and then travel dies off. Not because of misplaced intentions, but just because the world changes.
#5
Join Date: Apr 2001
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"booking" and "ticketed booking" is world apart. if you've actually referring to ticketed bookings you have stronger argument but as you said it yourself, economy class isn't going to thrill them much.
if I read it correctly that's 6 MPC sectors in each trip, or 12 sectors in 1 month... so in 2mth your boss makes silver. then another 4 mths to make gold. not too bad.
you could maximize the "status" part by going CTS-NRT-HKG-SYD-CBR that gives 16 sectors in 1 month. you could of course get creative and do CTS-NRT-HKG-BNE-SYD-CBR and make it 20 seectors in 1 mth lol.
if I read it correctly that's 6 MPC sectors in each trip, or 12 sectors in 1 month... so in 2mth your boss makes silver. then another 4 mths to make gold. not too bad.
you could maximize the "status" part by going CTS-NRT-HKG-SYD-CBR that gives 16 sectors in 1 month. you could of course get creative and do CTS-NRT-HKG-BNE-SYD-CBR and make it 20 seectors in 1 mth lol.
#6
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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May not be what you want to hear.....but that flying isn't much (nor too much rev) by some of CX elite's standards. I'm hardly alone on this board in making DM status well under a year when first joining as GR a few years ago. It does stink that it would take 3x round-trips to reach SL from CTS to SYD (instead of 2x, which I think would be reasonable, aka if you were doing HKG-JFK). Maybe after the first two round-trips without status you could write CX and egg them to give SL early for the third round-trip, assuming it was already ticketed and paid for?
It stinks I'm sure, but flying patterns can change very suddenly. I suspect CX and other airlines have seen plenty of instances where they comp status, and then travel dies off. Not because of misplaced intentions, but just because the world changes.
It stinks I'm sure, but flying patterns can change very suddenly. I suspect CX and other airlines have seen plenty of instances where they comp status, and then travel dies off. Not because of misplaced intentions, but just because the world changes.
#7
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"booking" and "ticketed booking" is world apart. if you've actually referring to ticketed bookings you have stronger argument but as you said it yourself, economy class isn't going to thrill them much.
if I read it correctly that's 6 MPC sectors in each trip, or 12 sectors in 1 month... so in 2mth your boss makes silver. then another 4 mths to make gold. not too bad.
you could maximize the "status" part by going CTS-NRT-HKG-SYD-CBR that gives 16 sectors in 1 month. you could of course get creative and do CTS-NRT-HKG-BNE-SYD-CBR and make it 20 seectors in 1 mth lol.
if I read it correctly that's 6 MPC sectors in each trip, or 12 sectors in 1 month... so in 2mth your boss makes silver. then another 4 mths to make gold. not too bad.
you could maximize the "status" part by going CTS-NRT-HKG-SYD-CBR that gives 16 sectors in 1 month. you could of course get creative and do CTS-NRT-HKG-BNE-SYD-CBR and make it 20 seectors in 1 mth lol.
EDIT i do not think this will work as eligible classes on JAL especially are like Y only which is insane domestically and same with Qantas nearly. But i could be wrong.
Last edited by Simmo; Sep 16, 2010 at 3:12 am Reason: more info
#9
Join Date: Aug 2010
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$499 priority pass is an easier solution for lounge access. for extra legroom, either pay for wait for 2 months.
If you are heavy traveller, I don't see what stopped you to do status match from other airlines. CX usually comp to silver.
If you are heavy traveller, I don't see what stopped you to do status match from other airlines. CX usually comp to silver.
#11
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simmO, i tell you what: forget about being GR for the 1st 30000 mmiles/20 sectors, but be an asiamiles member. my mum got her silver card flying 20000 miles. and she didnt have to pay the 50USD fee.
#12
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I am currently exploring the corporate route and hoping we can have some more success by getting in touch with someone in CX sales department. However, as Flyer888 pointed out, it is highly likely he might just have to start from the bottom like everyone else.
#13
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Hey Simmo,
Does she has any elite status elsewhere? when comp-ed, she will start right at SL which already have longue access and business class check-in and blah blah blah , then she start building the 60K mark towards GO
The auto upgrade one is more like sign-up for AsiaMiles (which is free), fly without status, and aiming at auto-upgrade (which highly likely if she is flying like crazy). She then got comp to SL and build against the 60K mark
However, I will say USD 50 might worth it for the priority check-in and priority boarding, especially when you doing ex-CTS when there are many tourist .....
Does she has any elite status elsewhere? when comp-ed, she will start right at SL which already have longue access and business class check-in and blah blah blah , then she start building the 60K mark towards GO
The auto upgrade one is more like sign-up for AsiaMiles (which is free), fly without status, and aiming at auto-upgrade (which highly likely if she is flying like crazy). She then got comp to SL and build against the 60K mark
However, I will say USD 50 might worth it for the priority check-in and priority boarding, especially when you doing ex-CTS when there are many tourist .....
#14
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,099
Hey Simmo,
Does she has any elite status elsewhere? when comp-ed, she will start right at SL which already have longue access and business class check-in and blah blah blah , then she start building the 60K mark towards GO
The auto upgrade one is more like sign-up for AsiaMiles (which is free), fly without status, and aiming at auto-upgrade (which highly likely if she is flying like crazy). She then got comp to SL and build against the 60K mark
However, I will say USD 50 might worth it for the priority check-in and priority boarding, especially when you doing ex-CTS when there are many tourist .....
Does she has any elite status elsewhere? when comp-ed, she will start right at SL which already have longue access and business class check-in and blah blah blah , then she start building the 60K mark towards GO
The auto upgrade one is more like sign-up for AsiaMiles (which is free), fly without status, and aiming at auto-upgrade (which highly likely if she is flying like crazy). She then got comp to SL and build against the 60K mark
However, I will say USD 50 might worth it for the priority check-in and priority boarding, especially when you doing ex-CTS when there are many tourist .....
#15
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
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Posts: 3,189
20k mpc miles (roughtly speaking) and auto-comp to silver is correct. I had it happen to me in Mar 2010 (i was downgraded from gold to green last year and made back to silver again with 9k short of gold now) and to my friend earlier this summer 2010. I'm not happy about it there's just way too many silver out there. Have you seen how busy the lounge these days has been? Much of them displaying a Y-class boarding pass
That lowers the bar to 20+60+120k to a mere 200,000 club miles to diamond.
That lowers the bar to 20+60+120k to a mere 200,000 club miles to diamond.