Has the CDN dollar been affecting you?
#166
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Originally Posted by cattle
I have a perfect example of this.
My distributor currently uses a $1.22 exchange rate to set their prices. If they would even us a $1.15 exchange (to give themselves a buffer) I know that the retail cost of my product would drop from $59.99 to $54.99 which is almost a 10% savings to the customer. The competitive nature of my industry would ensure that price drop which is money back in consumers pockets.
I realize that fuel is a consideration these days but if my distributor could use the 3% exchange difference to soak that up for now. If the dollar drops enough then they could put a fuel surcharge on all deliveries and my retail price would likely not rise more than even $1.00 at retail (if at all)
My distributor currently uses a $1.22 exchange rate to set their prices. If they would even us a $1.15 exchange (to give themselves a buffer) I know that the retail cost of my product would drop from $59.99 to $54.99 which is almost a 10% savings to the customer. The competitive nature of my industry would ensure that price drop which is money back in consumers pockets.
I realize that fuel is a consideration these days but if my distributor could use the 3% exchange difference to soak that up for now. If the dollar drops enough then they could put a fuel surcharge on all deliveries and my retail price would likely not rise more than even $1.00 at retail (if at all)
Just remember also that when you all get excited by Harpoon's 1% drop in GST. We consumers will never see one cent of that drop. If it was a direct tax reduction to payroll taxes it would have gone into our pockets. Cheap politics at play there.
#167
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Originally Posted by parnel
.... We consumers will never see one cent of that drop. If it was a direct tax reduction to payroll taxes it would have gone into our pockets. ....
For the same reason, it is better to pay cash at the airport for all of these AIF's than having it rolled into the ticket price.
#168
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Do it yourself.
If you are concerned about getting the value for your dollar that is not being passed along, for expensive items, take advantage of free trade. You can buy a new or used car in the US for US prices and no tax, bring it across for a $200 fee and the usual Canadian taxes. In my case, the car was priced in Canada at a 65 cent dollar. So it was a no brainer. I brought it over myself but people I know have used brokers who charge a fee that is minor compared to the saving. Some new car dealer organizations have agreed not to sell cross-border despite the fact that their manufacturer has no problem (check out Toyota as an example). The pressure of free trade will bring things in line pretty fast. The last time the dollars were close, there was no free trade. BTW in the past, the C$ was high because interest rates were higher in Canada. Now they are lower, so the dollar is strong based on fundamental value, not artificial propping. Remember when the government bought US currency from its reserves to keep the value of the dollar high? Is it selling of C$s now?
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Originally Posted by B1
If you are concerned about getting the value for your dollar that is not being passed along, for expensive items, take advantage of free trade. You can buy a new or used car in the US for US prices and no tax, bring it across for a $200 fee and the usual Canadian taxes. In my case, the car was priced in Canada at a 65 cent dollar. So it was a no brainer. I brought it over myself but people I know have used brokers who charge a fee that is minor compared to the saving. Some new car dealer organizations have agreed not to sell cross-border despite the fact that their manufacturer has no problem (check out Toyota as an example). The pressure of free trade will bring things in line pretty fast. The last time the dollars were close, there was no free trade. BTW in the past, the C$ was high because interest rates were higher in Canada. Now they are lower, so the dollar is strong based on fundamental value, not artificial propping. Remember when the government bought US currency from its reserves to keep the value of the dollar high? Is it selling of C$s now?
BTW, this thread title is really funny in hindsight.
#170
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Originally Posted by exAC
I don't believe that will happen very much. It is the one redeeming feature of a value added tax. The tax is visible and comes on after the comparision shopping has been done. It is much better than those who wanted the GST rolled into the displayed price of goods.
For the same reason, it is better to pay cash at the airport for all of these AIF's than having it rolled into the ticket price.
For the same reason, it is better to pay cash at the airport for all of these AIF's than having it rolled into the ticket price.
Good experienced governments know full well that businesses will simply take additional profit when they are middle men in tax reductions. Most economists have gone on record as opposing this form of tax reduction as well, and Harpoon is an economist, so he knows he is buying us with our own money of which we'll actually very little. Cheap politics is what we're getting...not cash.
#171
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Originally Posted by parnel
True enough;and your distributors will scream bloddy murder if they caught in the ultimate squeeze as they will.
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Originally Posted by parnel
Tell us that your next movie ticket will be reduced by about 10 cents next time you go to the theater. Also, sellers of resale goods/services will absorb the 1% reduction as profit when they pass it through.
Good experienced governments know full well that businesses will simply take additional profit when they are middle men in tax reductions. Most economists have gone on record as opposing this form of tax reduction as well, and Harpoon is an economist, so he knows he is buying us with our own money of which we'll actually very little. Cheap politics is what we're getting...not cash.
Good experienced governments know full well that businesses will simply take additional profit when they are middle men in tax reductions. Most economists have gone on record as opposing this form of tax reduction as well, and Harpoon is an economist, so he knows he is buying us with our own money of which we'll actually very little. Cheap politics is what we're getting...not cash.
At the end of the day, nothing changes for the government in terms of revenues and businesses get more money and Canadians feel they get a good deal but really are not at all.
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Personally, it has hurt me since I still have sizable chunks of USD earned when it was $1.60, 1.50 and 1.35 and 1.25.
But I really think the high CAD is hurting manufacturing, especially the ones that exports. They cannot get more money since they sell in USD, etc but a lot of their costs are in CAD so they are being squeezed. If this continues, expect to see more of the small to medium sized business to go under and some multi-nationals still producing in Canada to pull out and import instead and just leave Canadian operation a marketing company.
But I really think the high CAD is hurting manufacturing, especially the ones that exports. They cannot get more money since they sell in USD, etc but a lot of their costs are in CAD so they are being squeezed. If this continues, expect to see more of the small to medium sized business to go under and some multi-nationals still producing in Canada to pull out and import instead and just leave Canadian operation a marketing company.
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So nearly 4 years later and with the exchange rate within 2% of parity (1/3 to 1/2 appreciation depending on how you measure it), timely to bring up this topic again?
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Historic Highs and Lows
From the Bank of Canada, and inverting their data from CAD/USD to USD/CAD:
GJS - yow
- lowest close was on 18 Jan 2002 at $1.00 CAD = $0.6202 USD
- highest close was on 20 Aug 1957 at $1.00 CAD = $1.0613 USD
GJS - yow
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From the Bank of Canada, and inverting their data from CAD/USD to USD/CAD:
GJS - yow
- lowest close was on 18 Jan 2002 at $1.00 CAD = $0.6202 USD
- highest close was on 20 Aug 1957 at $1.00 CAD = $1.0613 USD
GJS - yow
I won't be surprised until it hits $1.10, but this is great news for all who love to travel.

