Canada Will Require Negative COVID-19 Test 72 Hours Before Arrival
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I guess if someone outright refused a test they couldn't be denied entry but could be forcibly quarantined in a government facility. Our constitution recognizes the government' s right to use exceptional measures in certain circumstances. Case in point; in Quebec we had a curfew in place during the evening. Normally this would go against freedom of mobility, freedom of association yet the courts have so far refused to put a stop to the curfews. Also, the government has the right to stop airlines from boarding passengers who don't present a negative test, but the government could not stop a Canadian citizen who showed up at the border from entering.
As Garykung noted, the right to enter Canada as well as the right to freedom of association are both in the Constitution Act of 1982 (also known as the Charter of Rights and Freedoms). That act contains a big disclaimer in Article I: "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it ***subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society***" (emphasis added).
This means that Parliament can do pretty much anything they want as long as it is "justified" in a free and democratic society. Oh well...
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Not only in Canada, but every constitutional right is actually conditional.
Just for Canada alone, Part I, Section 1 of the Constitution Act of 1982 states that "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."
Trudeau's mandatory COVID test requirement does not actually prevent Canadian from returning Canada. In fact - a Canadian can still enter Canada with COVID-19 or its symptoms by land or water (not by air because airline will DB). So it is not a matter of freedom of movement.
While you can argue with the rest of rights and freedoms, like unreasonable search and seizure, right to life, liberty, and security, and so on, bottom line, in light of the public health crisis, the Government of Canada is within its authority to impose testing and quarantine.
Just for Canada alone, Part I, Section 1 of the Constitution Act of 1982 states that "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."
Trudeau's mandatory COVID test requirement does not actually prevent Canadian from returning Canada. In fact - a Canadian can still enter Canada with COVID-19 or its symptoms by land or water (not by air because airline will DB). So it is not a matter of freedom of movement.
While you can argue with the rest of rights and freedoms, like unreasonable search and seizure, right to life, liberty, and security, and so on, bottom line, in light of the public health crisis, the Government of Canada is within its authority to impose testing and quarantine.
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Technically this is correct. However, from a practical standpoint, I very much doubt that they would want to override any of the COVID restrictions imposed by Parliament, or even those who were implemented through an Order In Council rather than legislation. My sense is that unlike the US Supreme Court, the Canadian Court is willing to give more latitude to Parliament, in the spirit of the British tradition.
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This will work for your daughter. I used it a couple weeks ago: https://labq.com/covid-mobile-testing/
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I think the role of the Court is to interpret the 1982 Act. One could argue that *no* travel restriction is justified in a free and democratic society (unless someone is under arrest) and that individual rights should prevail over the collective pubic health considerations. In fact, one could argue that travel restrictions are reminiscent of the Soviet Union (to a lesser degree, of course). Someone else could argue the exact opposite: a minor travel inconvenience is justifiable to protect the rest of the society. In the end, the court must weigh the individual rights vs. the necessity of protecting society. In this, they will probably give large latitude to the government, more so than the US Court might be inclined to do here in the US.
For some reason, Canadians seem to be fine with minor infringements of their 1982-guranateed constitutional rights, so long as it is for the common good. (Another example are sobriety checks conducted by SQ/OPP/RCMP, which seem to contradict Article 8 of the Charter -- "Everyone has the right to be secure against unreason-able search or seizure" -- because you get stopped without warrant and without probable cause.)
I am not judging anything.
For some reason, Canadians seem to be fine with minor infringements of their 1982-guranateed constitutional rights, so long as it is for the common good. (Another example are sobriety checks conducted by SQ/OPP/RCMP, which seem to contradict Article 8 of the Charter -- "Everyone has the right to be secure against unreason-able search or seizure" -- because you get stopped without warrant and without probable cause.)
I am not judging anything.
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Just to add to this - I went to a LabQ test van in Midtown this morning based on capedreamer's post a few weeks back. They didn't blink at all when I presented my Canadian passport, and fairly confident everyone else in line was also foreign traveller. No cost. Just waiting for the results to come through and I'll report back when that happens.
Btw, their chat and phone numbers are quite responsive. So if you don't receive an e-mail with your results after 24 hours, give them a shout. One of my friends had this issue and they quickly rectified it after he reached out.
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I think the role of the Court is to interpret the 1982 Act. One could argue that *no* travel restriction is justified in a free and democratic society (unless someone is under arrest) and that individual rights should prevail over the collective pubic health considerations. In fact, one could argue that travel restrictions are reminiscent of the Soviet Union (to a lesser degree, of course). Someone else could argue the exact opposite: a minor travel inconvenience is justifiable to protect the rest of the society. In the end, the court must weigh the individual rights vs. the necessity of protecting society. In this, they will probably give large latitude to the government, more so than the US Court might be inclined to do here in the US.
If you say COVID test is a restriction, then how about getting a Passport?
For some reason, Canadians seem to be fine with minor infringements of their 1982-guranateed constitutional rights, so long as it is for the common good. (Another example are sobriety checks conducted by SQ/OPP/RCMP, which seem to contradict Article 8 of the Charter -- "Everyone has the right to be secure against unreason-able search or seizure" -- because you get stopped without warrant and without probable cause.)
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Your argument lacks merits. Specifically, Canada requires returning citizens to provide a test result. Whether the test is positive or negative, Canada will still allow the return. Hence, there is no freedom of movement restriction.
If you say COVID test is a restriction, then how about getting a Passport?
I don't want to go that far. But sobriety checks is legal, which at the minimum, you signed away when you get licensed.
If you say COVID test is a restriction, then how about getting a Passport?
I don't want to go that far. But sobriety checks is legal, which at the minimum, you signed away when you get licensed.
The three-day "internment camp" requirement that costs over $1,000 for passengers arriving by air is perhaps the most compelling case one could make of an OIC that is in contradiction to the Charter. One should not have to pay $1,000 to exercise one's fundamental right to travel. Nor should one be deprived of liberty for three days because one decided to exercise that right. If you have to be deprived of liberty for three days for exercising a constitutionally-guaranteed right, is that right really a right?
Again, I am simply surprised that no one raised the constitutionality issue of some of the measures implemented by the Canadian government since COVID.
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Having a constitutionally guaranteed right to enter Canada seems inconsistent with asking someone to pay $6,250 for exercising that right. What am I missing? Is travel a right, or a privilege?
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One only needs to pay to be tested (actually, upthread discussion details how to be tested in US for FREE); fine is for those who choose not to comply with Pandemic rules that Supreme Court held to be constitutional.
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There have been a number of court challenges, none of which had any success. The main decision was penned by the Chief Justice of the Federal Court himself, and he addressed and dismissed many of the issues you raised.