New Transborder Process at YYZ
May 19, 2016, 9:22 pm
#46
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The advantage: You didn't have to claim your bag and carry it through.
Oh? You didn't check in a bag? Then I agree, probably zero advantage to the old system of leave airside and enter again, except a slightly shorter walk compared to truly re-entering, and probably still a shorter walk and access to a bigger farm of GE kiosks vs. the old 2 using the connection-entrance to preclearance.
Oh? You didn't check in a bag? Then I agree, probably zero advantage to the old system of leave airside and enter again, except a slightly shorter walk compared to truly re-entering, and probably still a shorter walk and access to a bigger farm of GE kiosks vs. the old 2 using the connection-entrance to preclearance.
May 19, 2016, 10:20 pm
#47
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May 21, 2016, 5:08 am
#48
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your bags get checked in
they then go into a bullpen where they are held
when you clear cbp they're taken from the bullpen and sent to the makeup unit (where the rampie puts your bag in the cart/container)
if you do not clear and they want to search they're pulled from the bullpen and sent to cbp
it's not like you're dealing with the canadian government or something, it's pretty straightforward and streamlined. and cbp isn't like those cbsa goofs, it's not like they search every 1/4 people.
although not sure why.
May 21, 2016, 6:09 am
#50
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The advantage: You didn't have to claim your bag and carry it through.
Oh? You didn't check in a bag? Then I agree, probably zero advantage to the old system of leave airside and enter again, except a slightly shorter walk compared to truly re-entering, and probably still a shorter walk and access to a bigger farm of GE kiosks vs. the old 2 using the connection-entrance to preclearance.
Oh? You didn't check in a bag? Then I agree, probably zero advantage to the old system of leave airside and enter again, except a slightly shorter walk compared to truly re-entering, and probably still a shorter walk and access to a bigger farm of GE kiosks vs. the old 2 using the connection-entrance to preclearance.
I don't understand why they have done this. What is the benefit of remaining in a secure zone up to the point of going through customs, versus the old method of exiting the sterile area, and taking a much shorter walk to US Customs?
May 21, 2016, 8:16 am
#51
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My guess is that OSS will be implemented soon...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/canad...nitiative.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/canad...nitiative.html
May 21, 2016, 11:19 am
#52
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My guess is that OSS will be implemented soon...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/canad...nitiative.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/canad...nitiative.html
May 22, 2016, 1:50 pm
#54
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I thought it was strange until reading this thread.
I wonder if TSA Pre would show on these domestic departures then?
May 22, 2016, 2:14 pm
#55
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You can go through "regular" security then head for the Nexus/Global entry sign on the left side to access the Global Entry machines. No one there checking for cards/passports - presumably if you don't have GE and try to use the machine, you'll get an error and be booted to the other line.
May 22, 2016, 2:18 pm
#56
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New system is a downgrade for Nexus members
Under the old system, once you used the GE machine, you'd wander past the CBP people in their kiosks and hand in your piece of paper before heading to security.
Now they were directing everyone from the GE machines to go into a line to speak to a CBP person in the kiosk who scans boarding pass, checks passport and asks a question or two. ... is the point of GE if the border guys give you the once over after the machine has already done its checks. I can see this being a cluster on a budy day.
Now they were directing everyone from the GE machines to go into a line to speak to a CBP person in the kiosk who scans boarding pass, checks passport and asks a question or two. ... is the point of GE if the border guys give you the once over after the machine has already done its checks. I can see this being a cluster on a budy day.
May 24, 2016, 9:03 am
#57
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So I've just gone through the new process. Yes, it requires GE/Nexus pax to speak with an agent. My "interview" this morning took about 10 seconds and I was on my way. Granted, there was no one ahead of me in the queue, but the GE/Nexus lane feeds you right to the front of the other lines. So unless there are a million people waiting ahead of you, it shouldn't take all that long to get through to an agent.
The rest of the process was pretty smooth. Security was deserted but looks like it could get crowded at peak travel times. No worse than the old system, probably a little better the rest of the time.
The rest of the process was pretty smooth. Security was deserted but looks like it could get crowded at peak travel times. No worse than the old system, probably a little better the rest of the time.
May 24, 2016, 11:56 am
#58
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So I've just gone through the new process. Yes, it requires GE/Nexus pax to speak with an agent. My "interview" this morning took about 10 seconds and I was on my way. Granted, there was no one ahead of me in the queue, but the GE/Nexus lane feeds you right to the front of the other lines. So unless there are a million people waiting ahead of you, it shouldn't take all that long to get through to an agent.
The rest of the process was pretty smooth. Security was deserted but looks like it could get crowded at peak travel times. No worse than the old system, probably a little better the rest of the time.
The rest of the process was pretty smooth. Security was deserted but looks like it could get crowded at peak travel times. No worse than the old system, probably a little better the rest of the time.
(They stamped mine, but I did get an X, with the old system still in place, but everyone seeing an agent.)
May 24, 2016, 2:14 pm
#59
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Did this this morning, domestic transfer to US. ... And no advantage with nexus, Amex,or status in security line! Nexus, non nexus not clearly marked once passed security, lines you go into after that if you are a zero or x on your receipt are a mess. Hopefully it gets better.
May 24, 2016, 5:17 pm
#60
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Absolutely sounds insane! What time did your colleague go through today?
