Two pieces of hand baggage to be allowed at LHR, but not LGW
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I am not sure if there has been a 'directive' about this but I think things were far better last year. I don't recall what used to be a very regular annoyance of being one of the first on in C and seeing the first few bins full already. I think the crew are now using cupboards or lockers elsewhere in the main. Certainly that was my experience last year anyway ^
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If those are signs of the US system working, thanks, I'd like to stick to a one-bag restriction so I don't have to rush on board to get overhead space!
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And a PS to those who stow their bags at the front. Are you aware that your actions can delay your flight?
When we're boarding, as you know we often board by seat row and two things can happen. First, passengers try to get on board before their row is called - although we try and turn them back, this can often cause more problems than just to let people go. These people then cause delays in the aircraft whilst they try and stow their belongings whilst everyone else wants to get past them. Part of this rushing to board is to ensure they get space for their bags.
Secondly, those who are courteous and polite enough to wait for their row to be called find there's nowhere to stow their bags by their seats. They then have to go up and down the aircraft looking for somewhere or have the crew assist them in doing so. This takes time and could delay the aircraft. If nowhere can be found to stow the bag, it has to be checked. This often results in an argument with the passenger and more time is wasted, then of course the bag has to be physically removed and placed in the hold - yet more time wasted.
PLEASE be nice and have respect for your fellow passengers - use the overhead in the area immediately above your seat only.
Last edited by sunrisegirl; Jan 2, 2008 at 6:18 am
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So what's the difference between 'two cabin bags' and 'one cabin bag + laptop/briefcase'?
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ba.com has now been updated:
The UK Department for Transport has given approval to a number of UK airports to remove the one-bag restriction on hand baggage.
As a result, British Airways will re-introduce its two-piece hand baggage allowance for customers departing and transferring through the following UK airports with effect from Monday 7 January, 2008:
London Heathrow
London City
Aberdeen
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Manchester
The one-bag restriction will remain in place at a number of other UK airports:
London Gatwick
Jersey
Newcastle
Newquay
The one bag restriction will apply to ALL customers departing or transferring through these airports.
British Airways customers can carry the following as hand baggage from all worldwide destinations and the six UK airports listed above:
· One bag no bigger than 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm (22 inches x 17.5 inches x 9.85 inches) (including wheels, pockets and handles)
· In addition, one briefcase or laptop-sized bag
· A maximum hand baggage weight of 23Kg applies and customers must able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided.
Restrictions on the quantity of liquids allowed through airport security search remain in place. Customers must ensure that all liquid containers do not exceed 100ml and are carried in a clear, re-sealable plastic bag no bigger than 20 cm x 20 cm that can be easily closed.
Customers travelling on codeshare or franchise services should check with their operating airline as their baggage allowances may vary.
The UK Department for Transport has given approval to a number of UK airports to remove the one-bag restriction on hand baggage.
As a result, British Airways will re-introduce its two-piece hand baggage allowance for customers departing and transferring through the following UK airports with effect from Monday 7 January, 2008:
London Heathrow
London City
Aberdeen
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Manchester
The one-bag restriction will remain in place at a number of other UK airports:
London Gatwick
Jersey
Newcastle
Newquay
The one bag restriction will apply to ALL customers departing or transferring through these airports.
British Airways customers can carry the following as hand baggage from all worldwide destinations and the six UK airports listed above:
· One bag no bigger than 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm (22 inches x 17.5 inches x 9.85 inches) (including wheels, pockets and handles)
· In addition, one briefcase or laptop-sized bag
· A maximum hand baggage weight of 23Kg applies and customers must able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided.
Restrictions on the quantity of liquids allowed through airport security search remain in place. Customers must ensure that all liquid containers do not exceed 100ml and are carried in a clear, re-sealable plastic bag no bigger than 20 cm x 20 cm that can be easily closed.
Customers travelling on codeshare or franchise services should check with their operating airline as their baggage allowances may vary.
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I dispute that! It only works because US carriers employ more staff than European airlines.
Every time I pass through Newark Liberty of Houston's George Bush airports, a veritable mountain of cabin baggage has to be Gate checked because there is no space on board to accommodate it!
If we Gate checked as many bags, we would have delays to our aircraft because we simply don't have enough staff to deal with it!
Every time I pass through Newark Liberty of Houston's George Bush airports, a veritable mountain of cabin baggage has to be Gate checked because there is no space on board to accommodate it!
If we Gate checked as many bags, we would have delays to our aircraft because we simply don't have enough staff to deal with it!
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I am not sure if there has been a 'directive' about this but I think things were far better last year. I don't recall what used to be a very regular annoyance of being one of the first on in C and seeing the first few bins full already. I think the crew are now using cupboards or lockers elsewhere in the main. Certainly that was my experience last year anyway ^
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FWIW, BAA Gatwick have now formally applied to DfT to permission to relax the one-piece rule at Gatwick. A formal response from DfT is expected by end-of-day 03JAN08.
Target dates proposed by Gatwick management are :
South Terminal connections (connecting pax on flights departing from South Terminal) -- 07JAN08
North Terminal connections (connecting pax on flights departing from North Terminal) -- 11FEB08
Central Search (both North AND South Terminals) -- 31MAR08
Target dates proposed by Gatwick management are :
South Terminal connections (connecting pax on flights departing from South Terminal) -- 07JAN08
North Terminal connections (connecting pax on flights departing from North Terminal) -- 11FEB08
Central Search (both North AND South Terminals) -- 31MAR08
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Just got this e-mail from BA:
Dear EuroCheat
Two-piece hand baggage allowance from London Heathrow
I am pleased to advise you that following an announcement by the UK Department for Transport, we are planning to re-introduce our two-piece cabin bag allowance at London Heathrow, London City, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen airports, with effect from 7 January 2008, bringing these airports into line with current EU regulations.
The change will mean that when you depart from or transfer through these airports you will be able to carry two pieces of hand baggage through security from this date. Your hand baggage allowance when travelling through London Heathrow for example, will therefore be:
· One bag no bigger than 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm (22 inches x 17.5 inches x 9.85 inches) (including wheels, pockets and handles)
· A maximum weight of 23kg per bag, and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided
· In addition, one briefcase or laptop sized bag
Please note that there is no change to the current EU restrictions on the quantity of liquids allowed through airport security. You must continue to ensure that all liquid containers do not exceed 100ml and are carried in a clear, re-sealable plastic bag that can be easily closed.
Also, please note that other UK airports, including London Gatwick, are expected to remove restrictions in line with the new UK Department for Transport guidelines in a phased approach. Until this comes into effect, the one-bag allowance will remain in place for other UK airports.
I hope this information is of use to you, and look forward to welcoming you on board British Airways in the near future.
Warm regards,
Olivia Khwaja
Relationship Marketing Manager, Europe & Africa
Dear EuroCheat
Two-piece hand baggage allowance from London Heathrow
I am pleased to advise you that following an announcement by the UK Department for Transport, we are planning to re-introduce our two-piece cabin bag allowance at London Heathrow, London City, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen airports, with effect from 7 January 2008, bringing these airports into line with current EU regulations.
The change will mean that when you depart from or transfer through these airports you will be able to carry two pieces of hand baggage through security from this date. Your hand baggage allowance when travelling through London Heathrow for example, will therefore be:
· One bag no bigger than 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm (22 inches x 17.5 inches x 9.85 inches) (including wheels, pockets and handles)
· A maximum weight of 23kg per bag, and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided
· In addition, one briefcase or laptop sized bag
Please note that there is no change to the current EU restrictions on the quantity of liquids allowed through airport security. You must continue to ensure that all liquid containers do not exceed 100ml and are carried in a clear, re-sealable plastic bag that can be easily closed.
Also, please note that other UK airports, including London Gatwick, are expected to remove restrictions in line with the new UK Department for Transport guidelines in a phased approach. Until this comes into effect, the one-bag allowance will remain in place for other UK airports.
I hope this information is of use to you, and look forward to welcoming you on board British Airways in the near future.
Warm regards,
Olivia Khwaja
Relationship Marketing Manager, Europe & Africa
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So what's the difference between 'two cabin bags' and 'one cabin bag + laptop/briefcase'?
With the relaxation of the "One Bag Rule", all BA passengers will have the same allowance, at least initially! So, in this case, you're right, there's no difference!
British Airways customers can carry the following as hand baggage from all worldwide destinations and the six approved UK airports (including London Heathrow):
*
One bag no bigger than 56 cm x 45 cm x 25 cm (22 inches x 17.5 inches x 9.85 inches) (including wheels, pockets and handles)
*
In addition, one briefcase or laptop-sized bag
*
A maximum hand baggage weight of 23Kg applies and customers must able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided.
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It's not clear on ba.com and raised some question among my LGW colleagues today - will a ladies handbag be allowed in addition to the one bag, as per the previous rules?
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.....will a ladies handbag be allowed in addition to the one bag, as per the previous rules?
At least initially, until they see how well they are coping, all passengers will be subject to the same restriction. viz: One main cabin bag plus a second bag of up to laptop size - no handbags (unless contained in one of the two cabin bags), no umbrellas, no cameras - nothing extra, nix, nada unless contained in one of thw two bags!!!
.......and this, as I mentioned earlier, is regardless of class of travel. Forget any reference to the old British Airways baggage policy!
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Not according to the BAA security staff.
At least initially, until they see how well they are coping, all passengers will be subject to the same restriction. viz: One main cabin bag plus a second bag of up to laptop size - no handbags (unless contained in one of the two cabin bags), no umbrellas, no cameras - nothing extra, nix, nada unless contained in one of thw two bags!!!
.......and this, as I mentioned earlier, is regardless of class of travel. Forget any reference to the old British Airways baggage policy!
At least initially, until they see how well they are coping, all passengers will be subject to the same restriction. viz: One main cabin bag plus a second bag of up to laptop size - no handbags (unless contained in one of the two cabin bags), no umbrellas, no cameras - nothing extra, nix, nada unless contained in one of thw two bags!!!
.......and this, as I mentioned earlier, is regardless of class of travel. Forget any reference to the old British Airways baggage policy!