OT _ Gatwick MacDonalds - Warn Your Chauffeurs and Meeters and Greeters!
#1
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OT _ Gatwick MacDonalds - Warn Your Chauffeurs and Meeters and Greeters!
Gatwick (South Terminal) MacDonalds by the Texaco filling station has always been a popular place for chauffeurs to hang out without paying huge parking charges whilst waiting for their arriving flights.
MacDiddlers are now strictly enforcing the 45 minute waiting limit by camera and just send a £125 bill to the Registered Keeper's address.
http://www.maidenbower.org.uk/forum/...=158265#158265
I don't know if this is entirely legal or not, but I would be really angry if this happened to me and I would definitely fight! If there is anyone who is a legal expert and can help please could they pm "Supergirl" !!!
MacDiddlers are now strictly enforcing the 45 minute waiting limit by camera and just send a £125 bill to the Registered Keeper's address.
http://www.maidenbower.org.uk/forum/...=158265#158265
I don't know if this is entirely legal or not, but I would be really angry if this happened to me and I would definitely fight! If there is anyone who is a legal expert and can help please could they pm "Supergirl" !!!
#3
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Surely this is McDonalds property and they can charge what they like for parking? How would you feel if someone came and parked in your front garden whilst avoiding paying car park fees?
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I'm more concerned about a non-law enforcement agency having access to the registered address of the car owner.
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Nice one. Methinks that a little infraction of the Data Protection Act may have been going on. Who exactly was sending this out? MacD. Texaco, or the BAA?
#6
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Precisely, it's one thing getting clamped in an area where it's clearly signed what the parking rules are, but using the equivalent of a private GATSO to nab you by post is a very scary shift if you ask me.
#7
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You can obtain the name and address of the registered keeper of another vehicle if you can demonstrate reasonable cause for needing the information. Information on the release of information and circumstances that DVLA has previously considered met reasonable cause is available on the link below.
I'm willing to bet that this facility is something that is relatively easy to exploit if you conjure up a sufficiently convincing story Time to re-register as a PO Box number?
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But would anyone seriously pay if Macca's sent them a bill for £125. Or £5 for that matter?
#9
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Has this sort of thing not been going on for a while in Asda . Tesco etc....
The Gvt / DVLA are happy to see the info..... They dont give a .... about us. we are just there to pay taxes pay fines etc...
The latest is road charging. That is going to bring in 28 billion a year ( and might do something about congestion). I thought I allready paid to use the road via road tax and the crazy tax on UK fuel/
The Gvt / DVLA are happy to see the info..... They dont give a .... about us. we are just there to pay taxes pay fines etc...
The latest is road charging. That is going to bring in 28 billion a year ( and might do something about congestion). I thought I allready paid to use the road via road tax and the crazy tax on UK fuel/
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http://direct.gov.uk/Motoring/Owning...066&chk=4gj8df
#12
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It was quite a well researched piece, with legal input. Bottom line IIRC is you can get vehicle registered keeper data if you have "reasonable cause". There seems to have been some legal activity in the recent past, where the reasonable cause has been interpreted to mean parking enforcement by civil organisations is acceptable. Sounded pretty odd to me.
A quick look on the Information Commissioners site (who had someone on the radio segment) would indicate they are looking into this. Link here but it's a 10 page pdf, if you are that interested..!
#13
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Having never been that that McDs I have no idea how much inconvenience is caused to other customers by people hogging the parking bays for an excessive amount of time having purchased an 80p cup of coffee.
I suspect that there will be a legal challenge to the DVLAs right to disclose the information to all and sundry; however, until that comes about we have to be aware that we live in a country that has more CCTV camera per head than anywhere else in the world.
#14
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McD's have got a business to run and it ain't about providing free car parking.
#15
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Unless you wanted to end up in the Small Claims Court with a possible CCJ against you then you would have to pay. McDs would claim the conditions of parking are clearly displayed (45 minutes free, then £XXX for stays longer than that) and that therefore they are entitled to levy the charge if you stay longer than 45 minutes.
So, if you get a note in the post from McGonads claiming a "civil penalty" (there is no such thing), then if you were not the driver at the time (or cannot remember who was driving) you can send them back a letter wishing them luck in tracking that person down.