BA wet-leases Danish Air Transport (DAT) aircraft for Summer ‘24; rebooking policy
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Whilst you can indeed try, no, you haven't understood the rules correctly (unless BA voluntarily published a specific rebooking guideline for this specific change which I am not aware of) - the airline is entitled to use a wet lease, indeed, virtually all European airlines do that.
Can I ask if there is a particular reason you want to change? The service you'll get will be exactly the same as you would on BA (this is not a codeshare, just a wet lease), only the plane will look different but for all you know may well prove more comfortable than some of BA's own!
Can I ask if there is a particular reason you want to change? The service you'll get will be exactly the same as you would on BA (this is not a codeshare, just a wet lease), only the plane will look different but for all you know may well prove more comfortable than some of BA's own!
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BA actually do have a policy which may help the OP and I have linked to it in post 11 in that thread.
However many agents are not aware of it, so as per the other posters I would recommend waiting for the specific internal guidelines relating to Danish Air Transport to be published. I imagine this will happen by early next week. If I spot them I will put a link in the other thread.
However many agents are not aware of it, so as per the other posters I would recommend waiting for the specific internal guidelines relating to Danish Air Transport to be published. I imagine this will happen by early next week. If I spot them I will put a link in the other thread.
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BA actually do have a policy which may help the OP and I have linked to it in post 11 in that thread.
However many agents are not aware of it, so as per the other posters I would recommend waiting for the specific internal guidelines relating to Danish Air Transport to be published. I imagine this will happen by early next week. If I spot them I will put a link in the other thread.
Ah yes the format has changed slightly, as previously there was a specific policy for each wetlease whereas now its a general one for leased aircraft.
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In addition to whatever specific commercial policy is issued, BA also have a standard customer guideline for this: https://www.britishairways.com/trave...eased-aircraft
This allows a passenger on a BA ticket to move the previous or next BA operated departure.
The specific policies are often a little more flexible than this.
This allows a passenger on a BA ticket to move the previous or next BA operated departure.
The specific policies are often a little more flexible than this.
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Sounds good thanks for the advice! I'll wait a few days to see if further guidance comes out, if not I don't think it's terribly expensive to change my departure airport at the moment, so I guess I can just eat change in fare if they don't have a better option and I decide to change.
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i think there was always a general change of operator policy in the standard guidelines - but often supplemented by a specific one for certain wetleases.
The summary of the general policy is, if it has changed since you booked you can change to a BA operated flight on the same route for free. I am sure it used to be any BA flight up to -2/+2 but it seems to now say the closest available BA flight. A specific policy might come and provide a bit more flexibility in terms of time frame.
The summary of the general policy is, if it has changed since you booked you can change to a BA operated flight on the same route for free. I am sure it used to be any BA flight up to -2/+2 but it seems to now say the closest available BA flight. A specific policy might come and provide a bit more flexibility in terms of time frame.
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I mean here we are four years after the pandemic and BA are still short of planes *yawn*
Can the airline not forward plan?
From what I’ve heard, it’s at least two aircraft on lease. That means we’ve now had since the pandemic - Avios Express, Iberia, Titan, Finnair, DAT…
Interestingly these seem to be operating on longer sectors too (i.e Greece) which isn’t great given the lack of WiFi and in-seat power.
Can the airline not forward plan?
From what I’ve heard, it’s at least two aircraft on lease. That means we’ve now had since the pandemic - Avios Express, Iberia, Titan, Finnair, DAT…
Interestingly these seem to be operating on longer sectors too (i.e Greece) which isn’t great given the lack of WiFi and in-seat power.
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They've got about seven new aircraft due in the next couple of months so you could ask why they appear to have too many routes rather than too few aircraft.
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All well and good unveiling new short haul seats, but they’re no good when you’re flying DAT!
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I mean here we are four years after the pandemic and BA are still short of planes *yawn*
Can the airline not forward plan?
From what I’ve heard, it’s at least two aircraft on lease. That means we’ve now had since the pandemic - Avios Express, Iberia, Titan, Finnair, DAT…
Interestingly these seem to be operating on longer sectors too (i.e Greece) which isn’t great given the lack of WiFi and in-seat power.
Can the airline not forward plan?
From what I’ve heard, it’s at least two aircraft on lease. That means we’ve now had since the pandemic - Avios Express, Iberia, Titan, Finnair, DAT…
Interestingly these seem to be operating on longer sectors too (i.e Greece) which isn’t great given the lack of WiFi and in-seat power.
I’m guessing flight deck crew in particular. BA have re-opened their Academy for the first time in a long time, but it does take time to train people (and again I’m guessing but it probably also takes some people away from the ‘day job’ to deliver more training). There are still airlines around the world that want to employ UK pilots, so there is a pull factor too on their existing staff.
BA in particular must fly a fairly ambitious flying programme to retain rights to slots, in particular at Heathrow, but not only there. They are also probably flying a few more short haul flights and fewer long haul, because of availability of wide body aircraft.
I’m not in a position to know whether they could or couldn’t have done better with all of this over the last 4 years, but there are genuinely a lot of moving parts.