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Feb 22, 2024, 10:02 am
#91
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
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Agree. Take the bed point. Q for everyone supporting this: How are the cabin crew supposed to make up a bed if the seatbelt sign is on? As it requires the customer to be out of their seat. I’ve seen experienced WW crew decline to do just this in a flight out of JFK before - they were happy to give the customer a pillow / duvet but they politely explained it was ‘too bumpy’ to do the beds just now.
Feb 22, 2024, 4:09 pm
#92
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: LAS/FCO/JFK/LAX
Programs: DL DM/2MM, BA GGL/CCR,/GFL, A3 Gold, JBU Mosaic, ITA Executive, HHonors Diamond
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On a recent LHR-SJC flight I could not only see San Francisco and the Golden Gate Bridge very easily while seated, but I invited some of the younger crew to look out too because they'd been chatting about it in the galley. I like to see the glaciers in Greenland and the icebergs off the coast, the huge number of lakes over the north of Canada, and the chain of volcanoes down the west coast. It's amazing (to me, having started flying before such things were available) to watch the IFE map and look down, understanding where I am. I love to see the northern lights. On Concorde, I loved seeing the curvature of the earth and can't imagine why someone would close the window blinds on scenes like that.
I always want a window seat and I always want to be able to look out, day or night, because that's the biggest part of the magic of flying, to be high above the earth and to be able to look down.
I didn't realise it's a USA cultural thing that's ruining flying for me. I just thought others were jealous that I'd got a window seat and they hadn't.
How can we change the culture back, on British-operated flights? Why should we have to adopt a culture that is quite honestly, ridiculous. Yes, I know we now have "proms" and "gender reveal parties" and that our own halloween traditions have been lost, but can't we at least fight for our window blinds??!!!!
I shall now raise a complaint with BA any time I feel my ability to look out of the window has been denied. Maybe I'll just be one solitary voice. But then I probably am about the blind stupidity of them serving nuts on flights when there are so many other options. l keep doing that, but I'm pretty certain the surveys go straight into the bin.
I always want a window seat and I always want to be able to look out, day or night, because that's the biggest part of the magic of flying, to be high above the earth and to be able to look down.
I didn't realise it's a USA cultural thing that's ruining flying for me. I just thought others were jealous that I'd got a window seat and they hadn't.
How can we change the culture back, on British-operated flights? Why should we have to adopt a culture that is quite honestly, ridiculous. Yes, I know we now have "proms" and "gender reveal parties" and that our own halloween traditions have been lost, but can't we at least fight for our window blinds??!!!!
I shall now raise a complaint with BA any time I feel my ability to look out of the window has been denied. Maybe I'll just be one solitary voice. But then I probably am about the blind stupidity of them serving nuts on flights when there are so many other options. l keep doing that, but I'm pretty certain the surveys go straight into the bin.
Feb 22, 2024, 6:52 pm
#93
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SJC
Programs: BAEC Bronze, AS MVP Gold 75K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 489
US airlines have an obsession with window blinds being down onboarding. The often used reason is that it keeps the aircraft cool- that is true for a TX or FL summer but on a hop from SJC to SEA in the middle of winter its rubbish. I raise them as I don't particularly like not being aware of my surroundings on take off / landing.
American are particularly bad about cabin lights on domestic evening flights. Often the lights aren't turned on for the whole flight after take off until the cabin needs to be secured before landing.
I have noticed in CW that there is a tendency amongst crew, on the West Coast routes ex LHR, to now insist on window blinds being put down on day flights. I do not understand it. Sleeping for six hours as you head Westbound is not going to help your jet lag in anyway. It is particularly frustrating when you can see that WTP cabin is in bright daylight!
American are particularly bad about cabin lights on domestic evening flights. Often the lights aren't turned on for the whole flight after take off until the cabin needs to be secured before landing.
I have noticed in CW that there is a tendency amongst crew, on the West Coast routes ex LHR, to now insist on window blinds being put down on day flights. I do not understand it. Sleeping for six hours as you head Westbound is not going to help your jet lag in anyway. It is particularly frustrating when you can see that WTP cabin is in bright daylight!
Mar 7, 2024, 10:08 am
#95
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: BAEC Gold. Hilton Diamond
Posts: 412
On a recent LHR-SJC flight I could not only see San Francisco and the Golden Gate Bridge very easily while seated, but I invited some of the younger crew to look out too because they'd been chatting about it in the galley. I like to see the glaciers in Greenland and the icebergs off the coast, the huge number of lakes over the north of Canada, and the chain of volcanoes down the west coast. It's amazing (to me, having started flying before such things were available) to watch the IFE map and look down, understanding where I am. I love to see the northern lights. On Concorde, I loved seeing the curvature of the earth and can't imagine why someone would close the window blinds on scenes like that.
I always want a window seat and I always want to be able to look out, day or night, because that's the biggest part of the magic of flying, to be high above the earth and to be able to look down.
I didn't realise it's a USA cultural thing that's ruining flying for me. I just thought others were jealous that I'd got a window seat and they hadn't.
How can we change the culture back, on British-operated flights? Why should we have to adopt a culture that is quite honestly, ridiculous. Yes, I know we now have "proms" and "gender reveal parties" and that our own halloween traditions have been lost, but can't we at least fight for our window blinds??!!!!
I shall now raise a complaint with BA any time I feel my ability to look out of the window has been denied. Maybe I'll just be one solitary voice. But then I probably am about the blind stupidity of them serving nuts on flights when there are so many other options. l keep doing that, but I'm pretty certain the surveys go straight into the bin.
I always want a window seat and I always want to be able to look out, day or night, because that's the biggest part of the magic of flying, to be high above the earth and to be able to look down.
I didn't realise it's a USA cultural thing that's ruining flying for me. I just thought others were jealous that I'd got a window seat and they hadn't.
How can we change the culture back, on British-operated flights? Why should we have to adopt a culture that is quite honestly, ridiculous. Yes, I know we now have "proms" and "gender reveal parties" and that our own halloween traditions have been lost, but can't we at least fight for our window blinds??!!!!
I shall now raise a complaint with BA any time I feel my ability to look out of the window has been denied. Maybe I'll just be one solitary voice. But then I probably am about the blind stupidity of them serving nuts on flights when there are so many other options. l keep doing that, but I'm pretty certain the surveys go straight into the bin.
Mar 7, 2024, 10:39 am
#96
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Cambridgeshire
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Posts: 1,306
Or, sorry, maybe what I said simply went above your head?
Mar 8, 2024, 2:14 am
#97
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: LAS/FCO/JFK/LAX
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I like nuts (the edible ones). You should be allowed to have something else if you are allergic. But this is quite OT, that’s all I said, not above my head
Mar 8, 2024, 2:34 am
#98
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NYC, FLL
Programs: UA PP 1MM, Marriott Bonvoy LTTE, BA Gold
Posts: 6,338
US airlines have an obsession with window blinds being down onboarding. The often used reason is that it keeps the aircraft cool- that is true for a TX or FL summer but on a hop from SJC to SEA in the middle of winter its rubbish. I raise them as I don't particularly like not being aware of my surroundings on take off / landing.
To the OP: I haven't read the entire thread, but absolutely write-in and report this. If the team working for her is uncomfortable for you, something is wrong and should be addressed. Feeling school principal vibes from this "CSD" (emphasis on the D, it seems).
Mar 8, 2024, 5:49 am
#99
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: London, Babylon-on-Thames
Programs: BAEC Blue (back to Earth)
Posts: 1,516
I have noticed in CW that there is a tendency amongst crew, on the West Coast routes ex LHR, to now insist on window blinds being put down on day flights. I do not understand it. Sleeping for six hours as you head Westbound is not going to help your jet lag in anyway. It is particularly frustrating when you can see that WTP cabin is in bright daylight!