Tomorrow (21/12) BA207 to BA1207 - LHR-MIA
Dec 19, 2023, 11:55 pm
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Tomorrow (21/12) BA207 to BA1207 - LHR-MIA
Does anyone know why the BA207 (A380) was cancelled but the BA1207 (new flight number, 77W) was replaced, with exactly the same flight timings?
What is the 77W aircraft like? How does it compare in F between the A380?
Thank you!
What is the 77W aircraft like? How does it compare in F between the A380?
Thank you!
Dec 20, 2023, 12:13 am
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Not sure why but the reason may be posted later on in this thread and I suspect your post will be merged there. The A380's sometimes seem to have some issues here and there with gremlins popping up but it could be a number of reasons why really.
FAQ : Reason for flight delay or cancellation - 2023 edition
As for F there are various threads on this which may help.
On the 77W basically there are 3 I think with 2010 First seats (14) and the rest have new F (privacy doors) and have 8 seats. More info here on the best seats and see the Wiki for the layouts (The 77W's are at the bottom). The A380 has more space than the 777 seats.
Seating guide: Boeing 777
BA First cabin and seating guide
Pete
FAQ : Reason for flight delay or cancellation - 2023 edition
As for F there are various threads on this which may help.
On the 77W basically there are 3 I think with 2010 First seats (14) and the rest have new F (privacy doors) and have 8 seats. More info here on the best seats and see the Wiki for the layouts (The 77W's are at the bottom). The A380 has more space than the 777 seats.
Seating guide: Boeing 777
BA First cabin and seating guide
Pete
Last edited by PETER01; Dec 20, 2023 at 12:27 am Reason: correcting link
Dec 20, 2023, 12:20 am
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Not sure why but the reason may be posted later on in this thread and I suspect your post will be merged there. The A380's sometimes seem to have some issues here and there with gremlins popping up but it could be a number of reasons why really.
FAQ : Reason for flight delay or cancellation - 2023 edition
As for F there are various threads on this which may help.
On the 77W basically there are 3 I think with 2010 First seats and the rest have new F (privacy doors) both have 8 seats. More info here on the best seats. The A380 has more space than the 777 seats.
Seating guide: Boeing 777
FAQ : Reason for flight delay or cancellation - 2023 edition
As for F there are various threads on this which may help.
On the 77W basically there are 3 I think with 2010 First seats and the rest have new F (privacy doors) both have 8 seats. More info here on the best seats. The A380 has more space than the 777 seats.
Seating guide: Boeing 777
Thank you
Dec 20, 2023, 12:32 am
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See here for a recent thread although if you search there are probably more.
BA First: A380 or 777-300 with updated suite?
As for Wifi all 777-300s are fitted as I understand it.
FAQ : Status of on-board WiFi rollout on BA aircraft
777-300ER details as per the Wiki.
Four class 777-300
Type 77G 777-300ER
Four class: 14F 56J 44W 183M
G-STBB G-STBC G-STBI (3)
2010 First, 2006 CW, 2010 WT+/WT and Thales IFE
Type 77H 777-300ER
Four class: 8F 76J 40W 130M
G-STBA G-STBD G-STBE G-STBF G-STBG G-STBH G-STBJ G-STBK G-STBL G-STBM G-STBN G-STBO G-STBP (13)
2020 First, 2019 CW, 2018 WT+/WT and Panasonic eX3 IFE
BA First: A380 or 777-300 with updated suite?
As for Wifi all 777-300s are fitted as I understand it.
FAQ : Status of on-board WiFi rollout on BA aircraft
777-300ER details as per the Wiki.
Four class 777-300
Type 77G 777-300ER
Four class: 14F 56J 44W 183M
G-STBB G-STBC G-STBI (3)
2010 First, 2006 CW, 2010 WT+/WT and Thales IFE
Type 77H 777-300ER
Four class: 8F 76J 40W 130M
G-STBA G-STBD G-STBE G-STBF G-STBG G-STBH G-STBJ G-STBK G-STBL G-STBM G-STBN G-STBO G-STBP (13)
2020 First, 2019 CW, 2018 WT+/WT and Panasonic eX3 IFE
Dec 20, 2023, 12:32 am
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This aircraft type is fitted with four classes accommodated across five cabins, and equipped with Wifi which allows you to stay connected during your flight. The installed in-flight entertainment is powered by a Thales i5000 system delivering on-demand content to each seat. All seats have individual universal power and USB sockets.'
https://www.aerolopa.com/ba-77g
Dec 20, 2023, 12:45 am
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A lack of pilots for the A380 has caused the cancellation of BA207. The code for that is FCRY. Due to the way various internal systems work a new flight number is needed to reinstate the flight, so BA1207 will operate in lieu of the above. You will be on one of the two remaining 77G fleet and the product is in effect the same as the A380, just minus one deck. The seating is the same albeit first is a little bit different.
Dec 20, 2023, 1:02 am
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A lack of pilots for the A380 has caused the cancellation of BA207. The code for that is FCRY. Due to the way various internal systems work a new flight number is needed to reinstate the flight, so BA1207 will operate in lieu of the above. You will be on one of the two remaining 77G fleet and the product is in effect the same as the A380, just minus one deck. The seating is the same albeit first is a little bit different.
Dec 20, 2023, 9:44 am
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If the code is FCRY then that suggests it’s eligible for UK261 compensation, but if the replacement flight is at the same time, that suggests it isn’t. Which is right?
Dec 20, 2023, 10:14 am
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I'd argue that it is eligible for compensation, although whether that is morally acceptable to claim is for further discussion.
Aren't there some edge cases where a flight can be delayed (say for a domestic) less than 3h so ineligible for compensation, but by rerouting on another service (and improving the arrival time) compensation is available? I seem to remember deciding not to claim in such a case.
Aren't there some edge cases where a flight can be delayed (say for a domestic) less than 3h so ineligible for compensation, but by rerouting on another service (and improving the arrival time) compensation is available? I seem to remember deciding not to claim in such a case.
Dec 20, 2023, 10:38 am
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I'd argue that it is eligible for compensation, although whether that is morally acceptable to claim is for further discussion.
Aren't there some edge cases where a flight can be delayed (say for a domestic) less than 3h so ineligible for compensation, but by rerouting on another service (and improving the arrival time) compensation is available? I seem to remember deciding not to claim in such a case.
Aren't there some edge cases where a flight can be delayed (say for a domestic) less than 3h so ineligible for compensation, but by rerouting on another service (and improving the arrival time) compensation is available? I seem to remember deciding not to claim in such a case.
Dec 20, 2023, 10:47 am
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We're flying this route on Friday, and following on Flightradar it has been a real mess this week. Today's BA209 got to the runway 2 hours late, turned off and is now just ticking through the delay (3.5 hours so far). On Monday it left 6 hours late. On Saturday 4 hours...
I dread seeing the A380 on my routes now.
I think the OP got very lucky with this equipment change.
I dread seeing the A380 on my routes now.
I think the OP got very lucky with this equipment change.
Dec 20, 2023, 6:23 pm
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I was on one of the A380s to Miami yesterday and we were an hour late to take off after apparently a number of issues which required resolving by mechanics! Sounds like we got rather lucky.
