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This thread is here to help the BA FT community be prepared for strikes that may affect BA operations, that is, not only airline strikes, but also ATC (air traffic control) strikes, flights affecting BA operations (ground staff, luggage, catering, security personnel, etc) and flight related administrations (e.g. border force).
In this Wiki, we will:
- List key strike dates
- Include information on how to get informed and what you can expect if your BA trip may be affected
Please also check the first two posts for key information.
1) Forthcoming strikes:
- 31/3 to 9/4: Planned security staff strike at Heathrow - possible significant disruptions if no agreement is found before there
- 27/3 major strike in Germany - significant disruptions planned, FRA closed
- 20/3-23/3 and possible extension beyond: Broad strike in France affecting many sectors in society including Air Traffic control. This may result in some flight cancellations and significant delays, particularly on Thursday 23. ATC is requesting airlines to cancel 20-30% of flights. Note that apart from the airline operation effects, public transport to/from airports will likely be broadly affected and demonstrations may lead to road closures. Other strikes may be possible in coming weeks.
2) How can I get informed about strikes and whether they may affect my trips with BA?
- BA will often have a note on a yellow background on their website about events affecting many of its operations on their home page
- They may also update the "travel news" section of the website with information
- Strikes can have an effect at any time, but often, BA will pro-actively cancel flights if it is required to or expects it will need to. This most often happens between 24 and 48 hours before flight departure although it can happen later as well. Check manage my booking for information
- Some strikes - notably ATC - will also lead to significant delays. The most accurate information comes from the app which is normally updated in real. Check your expected departure time but also your expected arrival time! If you see no departure delay but a significant expected arrival delay this may (although not necessarily) mean that your flight is subject to ATC delay and that the airline currently expects that your flight may board on time but you may be stuck at the airport for a while before the plane can leave (improvements can occur).
3) What can I expect if I am affected?
- If your flight is cancelled, you will normally be able to either cancel your trip and get a full refund or get rebooked on any other BA service on the same or a nearby day where there is space in your class of travel regardless of bucket (note: BA will not allow to rebook you in a higher travel class for free) or move to any other date if there is space in the same bucket (the "letter" you were booked in)
- If your flight is cancelled and BA cannot reroute you on the same day on its own flights, it has to allow rebooking on other airlines (primarily but not only JV partners)
- Even if your flight is not cancelled, BA may sometimes allow all customers flying during the period of disruption to change flights anyway. This is not automatically allowed. Check information in MMB or on this thread for more information
4) Will I be taken care of? Will I get compensation?
- If the disruption is sufficiently long, BA will have to provide you with food and drink (usually in the form of a voucher unless you have lounge access) and if it is overnight with accommodation. BA will pay for this or you can book directly. Note that BA's normal limit for reimbursement is £200 per room for two people sharing on a B&B basis. If you spend more than than you will likely be refused full reimbursement. If you pay more because there is genuinely no cheaper alternative, make sure you collect evidence (e.g. screenshots of major travel websites etc). Check the main EC261 travel compensation thread for information.
- If the strike is outside of BA's control (eg. ATC), you will not be eligible for compensation. If it is due to the airline's own operations (e.g. BA personnel, their contracted ground staff, etc) you may be eligible for compensation. Check the main EC261 travel compensation thread for information: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...261-uk261.html
In this Wiki, we will:
- List key strike dates
- Include information on how to get informed and what you can expect if your BA trip may be affected
Please also check the first two posts for key information.
1) Forthcoming strikes:
- 31/3 to 9/4: Planned security staff strike at Heathrow - possible significant disruptions if no agreement is found before there
- 27/3 major strike in Germany - significant disruptions planned, FRA closed
- 20/3-23/3 and possible extension beyond: Broad strike in France affecting many sectors in society including Air Traffic control. This may result in some flight cancellations and significant delays, particularly on Thursday 23. ATC is requesting airlines to cancel 20-30% of flights. Note that apart from the airline operation effects, public transport to/from airports will likely be broadly affected and demonstrations may lead to road closures. Other strikes may be possible in coming weeks.
2) How can I get informed about strikes and whether they may affect my trips with BA?
- BA will often have a note on a yellow background on their website about events affecting many of its operations on their home page
- They may also update the "travel news" section of the website with information
- Strikes can have an effect at any time, but often, BA will pro-actively cancel flights if it is required to or expects it will need to. This most often happens between 24 and 48 hours before flight departure although it can happen later as well. Check manage my booking for information
- Some strikes - notably ATC - will also lead to significant delays. The most accurate information comes from the app which is normally updated in real. Check your expected departure time but also your expected arrival time! If you see no departure delay but a significant expected arrival delay this may (although not necessarily) mean that your flight is subject to ATC delay and that the airline currently expects that your flight may board on time but you may be stuck at the airport for a while before the plane can leave (improvements can occur).
3) What can I expect if I am affected?
- If your flight is cancelled, you will normally be able to either cancel your trip and get a full refund or get rebooked on any other BA service on the same or a nearby day where there is space in your class of travel regardless of bucket (note: BA will not allow to rebook you in a higher travel class for free) or move to any other date if there is space in the same bucket (the "letter" you were booked in)
- If your flight is cancelled and BA cannot reroute you on the same day on its own flights, it has to allow rebooking on other airlines (primarily but not only JV partners)
- Even if your flight is not cancelled, BA may sometimes allow all customers flying during the period of disruption to change flights anyway. This is not automatically allowed. Check information in MMB or on this thread for more information
4) Will I be taken care of? Will I get compensation?
- If the disruption is sufficiently long, BA will have to provide you with food and drink (usually in the form of a voucher unless you have lounge access) and if it is overnight with accommodation. BA will pay for this or you can book directly. Note that BA's normal limit for reimbursement is £200 per room for two people sharing on a B&B basis. If you spend more than than you will likely be refused full reimbursement. If you pay more because there is genuinely no cheaper alternative, make sure you collect evidence (e.g. screenshots of major travel websites etc). Check the main EC261 travel compensation thread for information.
- If the strike is outside of BA's control (eg. ATC), you will not be eligible for compensation. If it is due to the airline's own operations (e.g. BA personnel, their contracted ground staff, etc) you may be eligible for compensation. Check the main EC261 travel compensation thread for information: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...261-uk261.html
Forthcoming strikes affecting BA services (ATC, airport ops, etc)
#61
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Any guidelines normally take a day or two at least. I have a gut feeling that in this case BA will want to wait and see for a little bit though, so maybe longer. There may not be any at all- as we’ve seen for some of the Heathrow strikes with any cancellations dealt with under the normal guidelines.
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Any guidelines normally take a day or two at least. I have a gut feeling that in this case BA will want to wait and see for a little bit though, so maybe longer. There may not be any at all- as we’ve seen for some of the Heathrow strikes with any cancellations dealt with under the normal guidelines.
Effectively cost me £35.
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I see today that Unite has said that one of the four Ground Handlers at Gatwick have softened their stance on the eight days of strikes in the next few weeks.
DHL who look after Easyjet at LGW have suspended their intention to strike pending an improved offer. The other three handlers are still set to strike unless they also get a better deal.
More details here..
https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-e...irms-still-on/
DHL who look after Easyjet at LGW have suspended their intention to strike pending an improved offer. The other three handlers are still set to strike unless they also get a better deal.
More details here..
https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-e...irms-still-on/
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Tube strikes for next week have been called off
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66268545
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66268545
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Not strictly strike related but nonetheless interesting: https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-e...-pay-increase/
Unite, the UK’s leading union, has secured a significant pay increase for around 24,000 staff employed by British Airways.
The workforce (excluding pilots and management) will receive a pay increase worth 13.1 per cent over an 18-month period, as well as a £1,000 one off payment. Unite has also built into the deal the potential for pay to increase further during this period if inflation remains high.
In addition to the pay increase, Unite has secured agreement that no member of staff will have the pay increase applied at a lower rate of pay then they were receiving in 2020.
This agreement reverses BA’s highly controversial decision at the height of the Covid pandemic to fire and rehire its entire workforce, with many workers suffering substantial pay cuts. Put simply, this both restores and increases pay.
The workforce (excluding pilots and management) will receive a pay increase worth 13.1 per cent over an 18-month period, as well as a £1,000 one off payment. Unite has also built into the deal the potential for pay to increase further during this period if inflation remains high.
In addition to the pay increase, Unite has secured agreement that no member of staff will have the pay increase applied at a lower rate of pay then they were receiving in 2020.
This agreement reverses BA’s highly controversial decision at the height of the Covid pandemic to fire and rehire its entire workforce, with many workers suffering substantial pay cuts. Put simply, this both restores and increases pay.
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Train strike tomorrow and both tube and train strikes on Wednesday 4/10 including Piccadilly Line, Heathrow Express (will start late and reduced to 1 train every 30 minutes) and Gatwick Express. Then tube strike on 6/10.
I think the Elizabeth line is supposed to work but there is a warning some stations may be close. Suggestions on how best to deal with this to those affected welcome...
I think the Elizabeth line is supposed to work but there is a warning some stations may be close. Suggestions on how best to deal with this to those affected welcome...
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Tube strike tomorrow and both tube and train strikes on Wednesday 4/10 including Piccadilly Line, Heathrow Express (will start late and reduced to 1 train every 30 minutes) and Gatwick Express.
I think the Elizabeth line is supposed to work but there is a warning some stations may be close. Suggestions on how best to deal with this to those affected welcome...
I think the Elizabeth line is supposed to work but there is a warning some stations may be close. Suggestions on how best to deal with this to those affected welcome...
Elizabeth line isn't in scope but will be busier, and as you say they may shut some of the central London stations if they get too busy.
So the Elizabeth line is the best solution for all 3 days, even if there's every chance it will be really busy. The Piccadilly line will be unaffected tomorrow, and HEX will run normally next Friday.
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I'm keen to work out how the Elizabeth Line will be impacted by the tube strike on Weds. I was planning on getting it from Bond Street to T5, but given that it's tube station staff who are on strike, does anyone have any thoughts / previous experience on whether the station is likely to be open?
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Officially it’s not affected and will operate as normal. There’s a caveat in that it might skip a few central stations if they can’t be operated safely (e.g. TCR is operated by LU and requires a minimum number of staff on duty to be open). It’s unlikely though, and Crossrail-only stations (e.g. Paddington, Farringdon) are very unlikely to be closed. Note that Bond St is separate from the LU station and can be operated on its own if the underground connectors are sealed off, unlike TCR which is fully integrated at the main exit.
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Not a strike, but it is significant disruption for those trying to get to LHR the weekend of 25/26 November by tube, HEX, or crossrail.
https://x.com/HeathrowAirport/status...944148134?s=20
https://x.com/HeathrowAirport/status...944148134?s=20
Due to planned engineering works, there will be disruption to rail services on Sat 25 & Sun 26 Nov 2023:
- No HeathrowExpress or TfL Elizabeth line services to/from HeathrowStations.
- No Piccadilly line service to/from Terminal 5.
https://www.heathrow.com/passenger-updates
- No HeathrowExpress or TfL Elizabeth line services to/from HeathrowStations.
- No Piccadilly line service to/from Terminal 5.
https://www.heathrow.com/passenger-updates
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Not a strike, but it is significant disruption for those trying to get to LHR the weekend of 25/26 November by tube, HEX, or crossrail.
https://x.com/HeathrowAirport/status...944148134?s=20
https://x.com/HeathrowAirport/status...944148134?s=20
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I do hope someone has bashed heads together in the Network Rail and TfL engineering work planning departments though.