BA 269 Jan 17 disarms doors while taxiing to avoid UK261
Jan 18, 2023, 1:06 am
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BA 269 Jan 17 disarms doors while taxiing - to avoid UK261?
Is that legal? FlightAware shows arrival time of 3:57 late. Crew clearly disarmed doors while still taxiing (for at least another two or three minutes). I've never seen this before in hundreds of flights and can only assume it was intended to subvert UK261. What's the best recourse for us here? Or is this normal/legal behavior?
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Jan 18, 2023, 1:10 am
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It is doors open time that counts, so I am not sure how any of that would help in any case. It is clearly a very odd situation you describe.
Jan 18, 2023, 1:12 am
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Is that legal? FlightAware shows arrival time of 3:57 late. Crew clearly disarmed doors while still taxiing (for at least another two or three minutes). I've never seen this before in hundreds of flights and can only assume it was intended to subvert UK261. What's the best recourse for us here? Or is this normal/legal behavior?
Jan 18, 2023, 1:14 am
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Many thanks for the quick replies. The door open time was approximately 3 minutes after the 4 hour mark, so if that's the case then we should still be good for compensation. But FlightAware shows the arrival time as when the doors were disarmed (hence 3:57 late), not when they were opened - is there a good way to see the data filed with regulators?
Jan 18, 2023, 1:23 am
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And indeed it's doors open AND passengers in a position to leave (details in the main EC261 thread). So for an arrival in the USA, with the jet bridge issues, the customs and manifest paperwork exchange, clarification of "extras" and assistance, I wouild be certain you would be over 4 hours. If you think about arriving at a bus disembarkation location such as the Greek Islands then opening the doors is in itself not when the clock stops, the buses need to be in place and the dispatcher has given the green light to start disembarkation. Admittedly this is usually pretty slick at these locations. On shorthaul and JFK T7 the disarm routinely happens in the final roll, so I would say this is all a bit misplaced.
Jan 18, 2023, 1:26 am
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Jan 18, 2023, 1:32 am
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LHR ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 1945
DELAY ZO
LEFT THE GATE 1948
TOOK OFF 2011
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 2302 LAX
LAX AIRCRAFT LANDED 2253
ARRIVED 2302
DELAY ZO
LEFT THE GATE 1948
TOOK OFF 2011
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 2302 LAX
LAX AIRCRAFT LANDED 2253
ARRIVED 2302
Jan 18, 2023, 1:40 am
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Jan 18, 2023, 1:43 am
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Apart from the door issue, any idea what is happening with BA269 lately? Shows massive delays since early January, even one cancellation. Seems not to be a late inbound aircraft as the A380 sits on the ground from the morning. Any clues?
I always tried to avoid the late return flight: two-six-late...
I always tried to avoid the late return flight: two-six-late...
Jan 18, 2023, 1:46 am
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To be fair the FR24 track shows the aircraft arriving on to the stand at 2302 local time, there certainly doesn't seem to be several further minutes of taxi-ing after that point.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...ba269#2ee2657b
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...ba269#2ee2657b
Jan 18, 2023, 2:04 am
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To be fair the FR24 track shows the aircraft arriving on to the stand at 2302 local time, there certainly doesn't seem to be several further minutes of taxi-ing after that point.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...ba269#2ee2657b
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...ba269#2ee2657b