BA avios redemption differences LHR - SYD - LHR
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BA avios redemption differences LHR - SYD - LHR
Hi
Managed to book 2 rewards seats in J LHR - SYD / SYD - LHR (separate bookings) using two Amex Companion vouchers.
Both off peak, no stops.
Outbound 18/02/23 150000 Avios and £1042
Inbound 07/03/23 125000 avios and £640
I get the differences in charges (albeit shocking) but can’t understand the difference in avios. Anyone any ideas?
Still showing as the old CW configuration - hoping this will change!
thanks
Managed to book 2 rewards seats in J LHR - SYD / SYD - LHR (separate bookings) using two Amex Companion vouchers.
Both off peak, no stops.
Outbound 18/02/23 150000 Avios and £1042
Inbound 07/03/23 125000 avios and £640
I get the differences in charges (albeit shocking) but can’t understand the difference in avios. Anyone any ideas?
Still showing as the old CW configuration - hoping this will change!
thanks
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can i check, you booked two seats in total using two vouchers? do you mean two bookings for two seats each, each booking using a voucher?
also do you mean both bookings are for exactly the same flights on the same dates in the same cabins? in which case no i don't understand the difference in avios or cost.
also do you mean both bookings are for exactly the same flights on the same dates in the same cabins? in which case no i don't understand the difference in avios or cost.
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can i check, you booked two seats in total using two vouchers? do you mean two bookings for two seats each, each booking using a voucher?
also do you mean both bookings are for exactly the same flights on the same dates in the same cabins? in which case no i don't understand the difference in avios or cost.
also do you mean both bookings are for exactly the same flights on the same dates in the same cabins? in which case no i don't understand the difference in avios or cost.
Both were ‘Off Peak’ according to the BA site
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Both were ‘Off Peak’ according to the BA site
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You're right that you need to book the outbound as soon as it is available, and then book the return later when seats are released. But the way to do that is either on the phone, where they will add the return to your existing outbound, or you book it yourself online as a straightforward reward booking and you then call up to have the voucher applied to the inbound leg, and get half the avios for that leg returned. You need the full avios at time of booking though for this method (ie 250,000 avios).
Strangely (or not, if you are familiar with aspects of the BA website) there is no mention of the voucher being valid for a return booking anywhere in the Ts&Cs: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...amex-companion.
For future guidance on the use of companion vouchers have a read through this thread: BA American Express companion voucher | master thread. Start at the top of page one and click on 'Click here to display full wiki'
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Ah. Unfortunately it looks like you have unnecessarily used 2 vouchers - each one can be used for a return journey. And I expect you would not have any joy trying to resurrect the situation at this stage.
You're right that you need to book the outbound as soon as it is available, and then book the return later when seats are released. But the way to do that is either on the phone, where they will add the return to your existing outbound, or you book it yourself online as a straightforward reward booking and you then call up to have the voucher applied to the inbound leg, and get half the avios for that leg returned. You need the full avios at time of booking though for this method (ie 250,000 avios).
Strangely (or not, if you are familiar with aspects of the BA website) there is no mention of the voucher being valid for a return booking anywhere in the Ts&Cs: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...amex-companion.
For future guidance on the use of companion vouchers have a read through this thread: BA American Express companion voucher | master thread. Start at the top of page one and click on 'Click here to display full wiki'
You're right that you need to book the outbound as soon as it is available, and then book the return later when seats are released. But the way to do that is either on the phone, where they will add the return to your existing outbound, or you book it yourself online as a straightforward reward booking and you then call up to have the voucher applied to the inbound leg, and get half the avios for that leg returned. You need the full avios at time of booking though for this method (ie 250,000 avios).
Strangely (or not, if you are familiar with aspects of the BA website) there is no mention of the voucher being valid for a return booking anywhere in the Ts&Cs: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...amex-companion.
For future guidance on the use of companion vouchers have a read through this thread: BA American Express companion voucher | master thread. Start at the top of page one and click on 'Click here to display full wiki'
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I suppose one solution would be to keep an eye out for any additional reward seats popping up for the return (which is unlikely I would think), book them as a new trip (using full avios) and then call up to have the new trip included under the umbrella of the original companion voucher. And only then, cancel the erroneous inbound booking - which you can do anyway with reward bookings (for a small fee) in fact they are not doing FTVs for reward bookings anymore.
Don't cancel anything until you have replacement seats - there is no guarantee that cancelled reward seats go back into availability. Note that outbound/inbound bookings made separately can be covered by one companion voucher but always remain as separate one-way bookings. You can set up alerts for reward seat availability with the likes of seatspy or expertflyer.
However, the perfect solution would be for BA to be able to undo your mistake - I imagine they might understand the problem but be unable or unwilling to achieve the solution.
Don't cancel anything until you have replacement seats - there is no guarantee that cancelled reward seats go back into availability. Note that outbound/inbound bookings made separately can be covered by one companion voucher but always remain as separate one-way bookings. You can set up alerts for reward seat availability with the likes of seatspy or expertflyer.
However, the perfect solution would be for BA to be able to undo your mistake - I imagine they might understand the problem but be unable or unwilling to achieve the solution.
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Another circuit queen I see. See you at WorldPride!
18 Feb is a peak date unfortunately. Please see here: British-Airways-peak-off-peak-Avios-redemption-calendar-2023.jpg (1674×730) (headforpoints.com)
18 Feb is a peak date unfortunately. Please see here: British-Airways-peak-off-peak-Avios-redemption-calendar-2023.jpg (1674×730) (headforpoints.com)