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List of BA destinations where masks ARE mandatory
You will need to wear a mask on board if you are travelling to the following countries (as of 4th May 2023):
You will not need to wear a mask on board if you are travelling from any country back to UK (as of 4th May 2023)
You will need to wear a mask on board if you are travelling to the following countries (as of 4th May 2023):
- Morocco
You will not need to wear a mask on board if you are travelling from any country back to UK (as of 4th May 2023)
List of BA destinations where masks are mandatory
#496
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#497
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#498
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Because the crew are required to comply with the destination specific covid briefs and nothing else. Until those are updated then the policies will remain.
For Germany the briefs state that FFPS2 masks are required inside the terminal building.
For Portugal it states that masks to be worn in terminal and onboard both inbound and outbound whilst at the destination airport only.
A page off a website, even if it is BA’s, is not an SOP. Following the briefs as printed is and they form part of our manuals. German destinations appear to have been updated last at the start of April, and for Portugal I can see the middle or March.
Whilst inconsistency is annoying, it is important to remember it was governments that introduced all of this and not airlines and there has been zero international common standard.
Hopefully if the actual stated rules/laws/regulations/Twitter opinion of the specific nation is truly and clearly stated form
an official source, they will be updated in due course, but there are people who are regularly checking.
Hopefully answers the why.
#499
Join Date: Dec 2019
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Because the crew are required to comply with the destination specific covid briefs and nothing else. Until those are updated then the policies will remain.
For Germany the briefs state that FFPS2 masks are required inside the terminal building.
For Portugal it states that masks to be worn in terminal and onboard both inbound and outbound whilst at the destination airport only.
A page off a website, even if it is BA’s, is not an SOP. Following the briefs as printed is and they form part of our manuals. German destinations appear to have been updated last at the start of April, and for Portugal I can see the middle or March.
Whilst inconsistency is annoying, it is important to remember it was governments that introduced all of this and not airlines and there has been zero international common standard.
Hopefully if the actual stated rules/laws/regulations/Twitter opinion of the specific nation is truly and clearly stated form
an official source, they will be updated in due course, but there are people who are regularly checking.
Hopefully answers the why.
For Germany the briefs state that FFPS2 masks are required inside the terminal building.
For Portugal it states that masks to be worn in terminal and onboard both inbound and outbound whilst at the destination airport only.
A page off a website, even if it is BA’s, is not an SOP. Following the briefs as printed is and they form part of our manuals. German destinations appear to have been updated last at the start of April, and for Portugal I can see the middle or March.
Whilst inconsistency is annoying, it is important to remember it was governments that introduced all of this and not airlines and there has been zero international common standard.
Hopefully if the actual stated rules/laws/regulations/Twitter opinion of the specific nation is truly and clearly stated form
an official source, they will be updated in due course, but there are people who are regularly checking.
Hopefully answers the why.
The announcement only came shortly before take off.
There is no excuse for not regularly updating the crew briefs - perhaps they should look out of the window and see what is actually happening.
#500
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The reality is that Germany has a complex and devolved public health system, which in essence means that very few masks are worn in MUC, some in DUS and people are mostly masked in FRA. On Lufthansa masks are required and crew will intervene, for example if a mask slips down during sleep. Clearly masks are on their way out, generally speaking, so it's just a matter of a bit of patience. They may be back again in the autumn. Their country, their rules, we are visitors.
#501
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Which terminal building - certainly not Nuremberg last night and more importantly they were saying nothing when people were boarding last night without them.
The announcement only came shortly before take off.
There is no excuse for not regularly updating the crew briefs - perhaps they should look out of the window and see what is actually happening.
The announcement only came shortly before take off.
There is no excuse for not regularly updating the crew briefs - perhaps they should look out of the window and see what is actually happening.
#502
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#503
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I have to say I'm not a fan of face masks as a general precaution, but on my (unmasked) flight today was a young guy, obviously with heavy cold symptoms, coughing and spluttering and sniffing loudly, making no attempt to catch coughs in anything at all, and resolutely unmasked. A request to the crew to attempt to persuade him to put a mask on at least was dismissed with an "I can't tell him to do that sir.".
Well maybe not, but you can suggest it, perhaps?
Anyway he got a few choice words robustly delivered from me in lieu of a FA suggestion, and similar from the Aussie guy in the row behind, and I masked up.
Absolutely zero consideration for others.
Well maybe not, but you can suggest it, perhaps?
Anyway he got a few choice words robustly delivered from me in lieu of a FA suggestion, and similar from the Aussie guy in the row behind, and I masked up.
Absolutely zero consideration for others.
#505
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Oxford, England
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Posts: 150
Flew from Thessaloniki to London yesterday. Whole thing was a bit weird.
This article says that facemasks must be worn when flying from Greece.
Cabin crew asked passengers to wear masks (when they weren't wearing masks themselves) however didn't mind passengers which didn't wear one properly/at all.
What's the point of asking and mandating masks when you're not actually going to enforce them...
This article says that facemasks must be worn when flying from Greece.
Cabin crew asked passengers to wear masks (when they weren't wearing masks themselves) however didn't mind passengers which didn't wear one properly/at all.
What's the point of asking and mandating masks when you're not actually going to enforce them...
#506
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I'm so glad I live in a sane place where no one goes into a panic mode because of few coughs.
#507
I have to say I'm not a fan of face masks as a general precaution, but on my (unmasked) flight today was a young guy, obviously with heavy cold symptoms, coughing and spluttering and sniffing loudly, making no attempt to catch coughs in anything at all, and resolutely unmasked. A request to the crew to attempt to persuade him to put a mask on at least was dismissed with an "I can't tell him to do that sir.".
Well maybe not, but you can suggest it, perhaps?
Anyway he got a few choice words robustly delivered from me in lieu of a FA suggestion, and similar from the Aussie guy in the row behind, and I masked up.
Absolutely zero consideration for others.
Well maybe not, but you can suggest it, perhaps?
Anyway he got a few choice words robustly delivered from me in lieu of a FA suggestion, and similar from the Aussie guy in the row behind, and I masked up.
Absolutely zero consideration for others.
#508
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I have to say I'm not a fan of face masks as a general precaution, but on my (unmasked) flight today was a young guy, obviously with heavy cold symptoms, coughing and spluttering and sniffing loudly, making no attempt to catch coughs in anything at all, and resolutely unmasked. A request to the crew to attempt to persuade him to put a mask on at least was dismissed with an "I can't tell him to do that sir.".
Well maybe not, but you can suggest it, perhaps?
Anyway he got a few choice words robustly delivered from me in lieu of a FA suggestion, and similar from the Aussie guy in the row behind, and I masked up.
Absolutely zero consideration for others.
Well maybe not, but you can suggest it, perhaps?
Anyway he got a few choice words robustly delivered from me in lieu of a FA suggestion, and similar from the Aussie guy in the row behind, and I masked up.
Absolutely zero consideration for others.
#509
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The person didn’t have to wear a mask but they should of at least used a tissue to catch the sneeze and cover their mouth when coughing. That’s just common sense. Not doing so is rude and inconsiderate towards your fellow human. If you can’t do the basics (without a valid reason) then they shouldn’t be travelling and infecting others with their germs.
#510
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16 minutes later, out came the bar cart and no one wore masks at all as they were served drinks. The whole thing is nonsense and should be customer choice only.