Oct 2, 2021, 12:05 pm
Last edit by: BAeuro
Gatwick Short-Haul Routes S22
New permanent LHR services (exLGW)
Algiers – Terminal 3
Bari – Terminal 3
Catania – Terminal 5
Dubrovnik – Terminal 5
Funchal – Terminal 5
Heraklion – Terminal 5
Jersey – Terminal 5
Kos - Terminal 5
Lanzarote - Terminal 5 (Apr/May only)
Malta - Terminal 5 (Apr-Jun only)
Naples – Terminal 3
Paphos - Terminal 5
Porto - Terminal 3
Seville – Terminal 5 (Apr/May only)
Thessaloniki - Terminal 5
Tirana – Terminal 3
Remaining at LGW (On sale)
Bari
Catania
Dubrovnik
Heraklion
Kos
Lanzarote
Malta
Paphos
Seville
Thessaloniki
Amsterdam
Dalaman
Faro
Ibiza
Malaga
Marrakesh
Palma
Rhodes
Tenerife
Venice
Glasgow
Manchester
Alicante
Antalya
Bordeaux
Cagliari
Gran Canaria
Larnaca
Menorca
Nice
Turin
Verona
Milan Malpensa
Santorini
Athens
Berlin
Madrid
Remaining at LGW (Off sale)
Bilbao
Geneva
Genoa
Grenoble
Rome
Salzburg
Gatwick Short-Haul Routes W22
Moved to LHR
Algiers
Funchal
Jersey
Porto
Naples
Tirana
New permanent LHR services (exLGW)
Algiers – Terminal 3
Bari – Terminal 3
Catania – Terminal 5
Dubrovnik – Terminal 5
Funchal – Terminal 5
Heraklion – Terminal 5
Jersey – Terminal 5
Kos - Terminal 5
Lanzarote - Terminal 5 (Apr/May only)
Malta - Terminal 5 (Apr-Jun only)
Naples – Terminal 3
Paphos - Terminal 5
Porto - Terminal 3
Seville – Terminal 5 (Apr/May only)
Thessaloniki - Terminal 5
Tirana – Terminal 3
Remaining at LGW (On sale)
Bari
Catania
Dubrovnik
Heraklion
Kos
Lanzarote
Malta
Paphos
Seville
Thessaloniki
Amsterdam
Dalaman
Faro
Ibiza
Malaga
Marrakesh
Palma
Rhodes
Tenerife
Venice
Glasgow
Manchester
Alicante
Antalya
Bordeaux
Cagliari
Gran Canaria
Larnaca
Menorca
Nice
Turin
Verona
Milan Malpensa
Santorini
Athens
Berlin
Madrid
Remaining at LGW (Off sale)
Bilbao
Geneva
Genoa
Grenoble
Rome
Salzburg
Gatwick Short-Haul Routes W22
Moved to LHR
Algiers
Funchal
Jersey
Porto
Naples
Tirana
BA planning to launch ‘low-cost’ shorthaul subsidiary at Gatwick in 2022
Oct 4, 2021, 5:55 am
#586
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Location: London, Babylon-on-Thames
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Posts: 1,507
I would agree, but the last time BA tried to leave LGW they allowed easyJet to grow massively in the London market and across their European network. I'm not sure that IAG would want to repeat that mistake twice. Would they want easyJet to get even stronger or allow Wizz to get a foot in the door?
The messaging from BA has been seemingly contradictory on the profitability at LGW. BA maintained that short haul at LGW had been transformed, but during this dispute BA claimed to have made losses over "many years". In retrospect, words like "recent" are conspicuous by their absence.It is entirely possible that the relative performance of routes at LHR is better than at LGW. With the reduction in frequencies of high-frequency LHR 'core' routes that BA now find "bucket and spade" routes more attractive than before. The large Club cabins certainly point to a strong demand...
The messaging from BA has been seemingly contradictory on the profitability at LGW. BA maintained that short haul at LGW had been transformed, but during this dispute BA claimed to have made losses over "many years". In retrospect, words like "recent" are conspicuous by their absence.It is entirely possible that the relative performance of routes at LHR is better than at LGW. With the reduction in frequencies of high-frequency LHR 'core' routes that BA now find "bucket and spade" routes more attractive than before. The large Club cabins certainly point to a strong demand...
If BA really think a slightly inferior flight deck contract is all they need to turn round years of losses then good luck to them, but who honestly thinks this thread won't be having the same convo in 2-3 years. Again.
Oct 4, 2021, 6:03 am
#587
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Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
Kos, Thessaloniki and Paphos just been moved up to LHR. I really don’t know whether they’re coming or going.
Oct 4, 2021, 6:14 am
#588
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: York, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, Honors Diamond
Posts: 1,184
MLA looks to be being moved slowly, 2 times a week up until mid May right now.
Oct 4, 2021, 12:15 pm
#590
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Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
Lanzarote now winter seasonal (Oct-May).
Oct 4, 2021, 12:24 pm
#591
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Posts: 1,382
Oct 4, 2021, 12:30 pm
#592
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
It’s silly though, because now that flights have moved to LHR, people will have changed plans (hotels/parking). If they move routes back to Gatwick people will get annoyed.
You could also get people now booking MLA or PFO with connections through LHR, if they change back to Gatwick, I’m sure people will be impressed.
You could also get people now booking MLA or PFO with connections through LHR, if they change back to Gatwick, I’m sure people will be impressed.
Oct 4, 2021, 1:15 pm
#593
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 378
It here is a number of routes only on sale to late May. Could this be because BA are now planning to push back the date of restarting shorthaul at LGW until 1st June?.
Oct 4, 2021, 1:21 pm
#594
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Mucci, BAEC Silver, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 1,038
It’s silly though, because now that flights have moved to LHR, people will have changed plans (hotels/parking). If they move routes back to Gatwick people will get annoyed.
You could also get people now booking MLA or PFO with connections through LHR, if they change back to Gatwick, I’m sure people will be impressed.
You could also get people now booking MLA or PFO with connections through LHR, if they change back to Gatwick, I’m sure people will be impressed.
1. Move enough flights to LHR to save slots. (Done...... Sort of).
2. Cancel and consolidate other flights to fill LHR planes. (Done...... Sort of).
3. Sort out pilots at LGW.
4. Use LGW slots to add new flights / extra capacity to meet demand on routes as and where this is seen to be required.
Oct 4, 2021, 1:45 pm
#596
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: British Airways Exec, Virgin Atlantic
Posts: 80
I'm sitting on cancellation notices for next August atm for Seville. Any advice would be welcome - do I sit it out for a bit longer or shift to Gibraltar before they become stupidly expensive. Gib flights on the same day are already £80 more than I have paid for three to Seville.
Oct 4, 2021, 2:08 pm
#597
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Aberdeen
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 650
I'm sitting on cancellation notices for next August atm for Seville. Any advice would be welcome - do I sit it out for a bit longer or shift to Gibraltar before they become stupidly expensive. Gib flights on the same day are already £80 more than I have paid for three to Seville.
Oct 4, 2021, 4:02 pm
#599
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Programs: British Airways Exec, Virgin Atlantic
Posts: 80
Oct 6, 2021, 11:44 pm
#600
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: BA Executive Club
Posts: 1,036
Does anyone know when the result of the latest BALPA ballot is due? I was hearing today or tomorrow.