Anyone got a crystal ball? COVID and flying to the US...
Jan 26, 2021, 7:17 am
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Seems wildly optimistic.
Jan 26, 2021, 7:18 am
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Let’s get to March and see what happens. We must surely be turning a corner come mid-end Feb, albeit slowly.
I’m amazed we (U.K.) have 12% of the population vaccinated with the first dose. That is certainly commendable.
Biden is sorting out his side of the pond and I’m a lot more positive about the organisation and roll out over there.
If we simply cannot fly to the US as non-US by April or May then the gravity of this is a lot worse than I think any of us could have imagined. I say that as someone who is dearly missing his family and not someone who wants to leisure themselves in bars and beaches!
Jan 26, 2021, 7:44 am
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I've trips to the States booked for August and December. I'm betting 10% and 50% likelihood of them happening respectively.
Jan 26, 2021, 7:51 am
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I am continually amazed by the leve of negativity both in the respectable UK press and on FT. If people really think there will be no international travel for another year, it indicates they expect the vaccine programme to be a complete failure.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
Jan 26, 2021, 8:07 am
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I am continually amazed by the leve of negativity both in the respectable UK press and on FT. If people really think there will be no international travel for another year, it indicates they expect the vaccine programme to be a complete failure.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
Jan 26, 2021, 8:11 am
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I've got a trip to San Francisco booked for Mid-March/Early April and have all but written off going. Basically waiting for BA to either cancel the flights and refund us, or for the FCO to tell us we can't travel. Either way, looking for a cash refund rather than an FTV as I already have two and have almost no way of using them as the missus is completely against air travel just now until she has had her vaccine (first dose is done, just waiting on the second)
Jan 26, 2021, 8:19 am
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Once you're all done with your crystal balls, can I have a go please?
Got a trip to Florida booked in September, re-booked from September last year. I reckon I'd rate it as about a 50/50 chance as the vaccine roll-out is going pretty well in both countries so far and that will ease the main pressures. Fingers crossed...
Got a trip to Florida booked in September, re-booked from September last year. I reckon I'd rate it as about a 50/50 chance as the vaccine roll-out is going pretty well in both countries so far and that will ease the main pressures. Fingers crossed...
Jan 26, 2021, 8:49 am
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For us, PHX in May = No way, José.
The fact that we are both getting our first vaccination on Saturday doesn’t really alter anything. The vaccine may protect us but it doesn’t necessarily prevent us being infectious. Opinion is still divided on that aspect.
As for “the vaccine roll-out is going pretty well in both countries so far”, we are clearly seeing different Media reports!
The fact that we are both getting our first vaccination on Saturday doesn’t really alter anything. The vaccine may protect us but it doesn’t necessarily prevent us being infectious. Opinion is still divided on that aspect.
As for “the vaccine roll-out is going pretty well in both countries so far”, we are clearly seeing different Media reports!
Jan 26, 2021, 9:04 am
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Advance congrats on the vacc., hopefully you can find somewhere to slip in a trip report.
Jan 26, 2021, 10:20 am
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As an aside, the Canadian and new US governments have pledged to work together and harmonize entry requirements into each others countries in regard to Covid, such as quarantine etc. The Canadian government is mulling enacting the Emergencies Act ( the successor to the old War Measures Act) to be able to restrict both international and domestic travel within Canada, potentially limiting travel to local post codes, and a complete ban on both inter-provincial and inter-city travel.
Somehow I doubt unrestricted travel to the UK would be allowed under that scenario.
Somehow I doubt unrestricted travel to the UK would be allowed under that scenario.
Jan 26, 2021, 10:31 am
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I am continually amazed by the leve of negativity both in the respectable UK press and on FT. If people really think there will be no international travel for another year, it indicates they expect the vaccine programme to be a complete failure.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
Jan 26, 2021, 11:01 am
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I am continually amazed by the leve of negativity both in the respectable UK press and on FT. If people really think there will be no international travel for another year, it indicates they expect the vaccine programme to be a complete failure.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
At current rates, all at-risk groups in the UK/US will be vaccinated by the end of April - and this is before the J&J one-dose vaccine is (hopefully) approved next month - that could be a real game changer. I can then vaccine under supply turning into over-supply, and we will be in a much different place by early summer.
I'm also unclear how believing that having freedom to travel to the US by late April is unlikely equates to believing all international travel will be shut down for another year.
Jan 26, 2021, 11:22 am
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My Crystal Ball says: Fall 2021 for international travel (plus proof of vaccination)
Jan 26, 2021, 11:23 am
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I’ve got SFO in June but think unlikely so going to push out to September.