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Old Jan 1, 2021, 8:29 am
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01 - If your flight is cancelled by BA:

Commercial booking: Your options are: cash refund OR Future Travel Voucher (FTV) OR rebooking OR Avios credit

Redemption booking: Your options are: full refund of cash and Avios OR FTV OR rebooking.

BA Holidays booking: You should be given a refund pro-actively.

If your flight is cancelled by BA - any flight in the PNR - you can get a full refund so long as you booked directly with BA. You can only get a refund by telephoning BA. Refunds are taking between a few hours to a few weeks to be repaid, depending on the sort of booking made. If you don't wish to travel you can opt for an FTV or eVoucher valid for travel until 30 April 2023 (now extended from April 2022 including existing FTVs), though flights more than 355 days away are not currently bookable - flights are enabled at 355 days before departure. Vouchers such as 2-4-1 are also thereby extended. You can do this even if the flight is operating. The best advice we can give is to delay opting for an eVoucher options until the last moment, since if BA cancel your flight you have more options. BA have also adjusted the Standard Customer Guidelines so that if BA cancel the flight you can be rebooked to anytime in 12 months after you originally bought the ticket, so long as there is space in the cabin - there is no need to have a fare bucket available or Avios availability. If you choose the Avios credit you will get between 108 to 126 Avios per GBP of your fare. If you us,ed an FTV to pay for this now cancelled service then you can have a refund back to the FTV's original booking.

Online forms: manual process which may take many weeks
link to webform to claim a refund (UK) or link to webform to claim a refund (US)

Paid Seating Refund:
link to webform to claim a refund (UK)



02 - If your flight is not cancelled but you no longer wish to travel

Commercial booking: If you are eligible for Buy with Confidence, you can have an FTV valid until 31 August 2022 (this has been extended several times). Rebooking may lead to a fare recalculation but no change fee. Travel must be fully completed by this date.

Redemption booking: Your can do the normal Avios refund, with the redeposit fee capped at GBP 35 per person. Alternatively for the same fee you can rebook to new dates subject to availability. Alternatively you can have an FTV.

BA Holidays booking: You may be get a refund proactively, otherwise you are looking at an FTV for at least the flight component of your trip, maybe for all components.

If all of the flights in your booking are still scheduled and you don't wish to travel then you best wait until a few days before departure in case there is a cancellation. As you can see above, a cancellation gives you better options. You are in scope with Buy with Confidence if you are flying between now and completing travel before 30 April 2022, also if you bought your ticket after 3 March and due to complete all flights before September 2021. The BA web page on this is: https://ba.com/confidence

Bookings made using Lloyds Upgrade Voucher
You should expect to receive:
A full refund of Avios and money paid plus a new voucher issued, which has validity for 6 months (from the date of issue, i.e. when you request the 'refund')

Lloyds Upgrade Voucher Notes
  • Flights can be used within 12 months, so it will be good for travel up until the end 6 months plus 12 months if you book just before the new expiry
  • It's been advised to take the voucher instead of rebooking as it gives me more flexibility.
  • The original expiry date of the voucher was irrelevant because the booking was cancelled.
  • You must book within 6 months of the voucher being issued and the ticket has 12 months validity so you can change flights after, provided the new flights are within the 12 month window.
  • You won't receive any email, only the refund and the miles.


03 - How to find out the status of your voucher and the amount it contains

Use the Qantas website and look back to your original PNR. Step by step guide by corporate-wage-slave


04 - Future Travel Vouchers versus eVouchers

FTVs cannot be used online (and are not really vouchers), whereas eVouchers, issued for simple bookings, can be used online.

BA are now issuing eVouchers directly in simple cases, and also proactively replacing existing FTVs with new eVouchers. These are usable online. Complex cases still get FTVs, which require a phone call to book. In both cases, you need to apply online through the Cancellation Options in MMB, and both will generate an email typically within a few minutes. This is how to tell the difference

1) eVouchers will get an email entitled "Your British Airways eVoucher"
This will then have a line like this and the online ability is mentioned in the email text:
Your eVoucher details
125-1234567890 / GBP48.87 / WAGE-SLAVE /

2) FTVs will get an email entitled "Your British Airways Future Travel Voucher"
The relevant line then shows:
Voucher code(s)
125-1234567890

It doesn't take much, by FT standards, to turn a booking too complicated for the automated eVoucher. POUGs, flight changes, TCP, seat payment, pay payment with Avios, UuA. 48 and 72 hour Hold bookings all stop it. But if you made a simple single or return booking, point to point, on BA.com and didn't change it, then you should get an eVoucher.

If you obtain an FTV, deploy it on a new booking which BA then cancels, then you can get a refund of the cash from the first booking that led to the FTV. Or an Avios refund without redeposit fees if it was a redemption.
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Old Sep 16, 2021, 3:39 pm
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And the number of Avios for the BAH at the 'reduced price'?
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Old Sep 16, 2021, 11:52 pm
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Originally Posted by sb1982
The voucher usually doesn't show as a paid amount but all they do is reduce the total of the holiday. Are you sure the holiday price hasn't gone down by £200?


Both amounts are the same which I didn't think was right but wasn't sure if it was applied later.
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Old Sep 17, 2021, 2:43 am
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Had both flights cancelled yesterday on a BAH trip to Singapore. No alternative offered on the outbound but yes on the inbound, the alternative offered was a day later on an already full in First flight (according to Expertflyer). Had already been moved off this flight because there were no seats available for me and Mrs B.
Anyway just going to cancel trip and look at rebooking next year when things will hopefully have opened up more. Because flights have been cancelled I should get a refund, however don’t think I will go down that route as it was part of the £3000 spend on a new BAPP (26000 Avios) which is sitting in a drawer now whilst I achieve a 2-4-1 on my own card. Already had one refund off EasyJet and another possibility from BA down the road all this could take it back below the required spend and outside the 3 month period now.
Anyway, can I just take a FTV or can I ask to be rebooked for the same trip next Spring and would I need to pay any price difference?
Thanks in advance.
Just a side note it would have taken myself and Mrs B 5 tier points short of Gold but we can forget that now. Our trip to SA will keep us at Silver if that goes ahead.
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Old Sep 17, 2021, 3:26 am
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I've got a flight only booking INV-LHR-EWR with one leg upgraded with Avios. I'm thinking of rebooking as a BA Holiday (BAH) in the current sale instead, so am contemplating cancelling the flight-only booking for a voucher. However, I can't determine if, due to the Avios aspect, this would be an eV or FTV? And, therefore, would there be any way to apply it to a new BAH booking? The Ts&Cs seem to suggest not. So unsure with how to best proceed.
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Old Sep 17, 2021, 6:14 am
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We have a 2-4-1 voucher which expires on 02-01-2022. Am I correct in thinking that it is still possible to book a flight to "somewhere, anywhere" and then cancel it and have the voucher extended until 2023?

Many thanks
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Old Sep 17, 2021, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by jnagar
I had the last segment cancelled from my PDX-SEA-LHR-BCN (LHR-BCN cancelled)--PDX-SEA is an Alaska codeshare, remainder of the flights are on BA metal.

I called in to ask if that would allow some change in routing due to the cancellation: specifically, whether they would allow us to fly via LAX instead of SEA. I was told "no" since there are no codeshare flights from PDX-LAX. Further, dropping the first segment and finding our own way to LAX is apparently not possible either, since it's over the 300mi limit in gateway changes. Is there any way around this, or are these the hard and fast rules?

Ideally we'd be flying PDX-LAX in the evening, spending the night there, and then taking the first flight out from LAX-LHR (16:15).

Thanks!
Some final notes from my eventual final conversation with BA on the matters:
1) When I called in to finally pull the trigger on pushing back the travel date by one day due to the long connection time in LHR, the agent had a hard time finding anything via SEA--seems like they were trying to find PDX-LHR rather than PDX-SEA and then SEA-LHR. I saw availability on AS metal from PDX-SEA but they were not finding the whole route pricing on their end for whatever reason (via codeshare, I gather). At some point the agent said they'd have to "manually pick" the flights (I think this is a key word that would have been helpful to me earlier). I had an aha moment, and asked whether, since they were manually picking, whether they'd fly us through LAX and give us the overnight we were hoping for there. I told them which flights I was looking at, and they made it happen without much/any resistance. Very different from the first couple times I called about this. By keeping the connection <24hrs this was a legal connection (no stopovers allowed).

2) The agents would not budge on the change of gateway >350ish miles. They would change BCN to MAD for us in the end (contradicting earlier convos with BA CSRs), but not to LIS. So we ended up just flying to BCN and making a few days out of it; then bought cheap tix BCN-OPO for a few days later.

That's about it on that. Thanks for all the help I got on here--this worked out and the info was useful if not always backed up by BA...
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Old Sep 17, 2021, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by redrose59
We have a 2-4-1 voucher which expires on 02-01-2022. Am I correct in thinking that it is still possible to book a flight to "somewhere, anywhere" and then cancel it and have the voucher extended until 2023?

Many thanks
yes that's correct. bear in mind you will be stuck with whoever you book with as passengers on your booking you will cancel - you can't change people later and the new booking will be restricted to the same people on the booking you make and FTV now.
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Old Sep 17, 2021, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by redrose59
We have a 2-4-1 voucher which expires on 02-01-2022. Am I correct in thinking that it is still possible to book a flight to "somewhere, anywhere" and then cancel it and have the voucher extended until 2023?

Many thanks
Yes, still in place
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Old Sep 18, 2021, 1:41 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
yes that's correct. bear in mind you will be stuck with whoever you book with as passengers on your booking you will cancel - you can't change people later and the new booking will be restricted to the same people on the booking you make and FTV now.
Thanks for the reply, that's great. If Mr Redrose even thought about taking anyone else as his companion to South Africa there would be big matata. Lol. We are just about to trigger another 2-4-1, we already have a trip booked for May/June 2022 using a 2-4-1. We were hoping that SA would come off the red list but not to be just now. Once it opens up then I can see us heading South numerous times. Just longing to be back under the big skies of Africa.
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Old Sep 19, 2021, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA
You can't use cash evouchers/FTVs for reward bookings and vice versa. Basically FTVs from reward bookings must be used for new reward bookings, and FTVs from cash bookings must be used for new cash bookings.
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In the last few days I have made a new flight and hotel booking for mid-October and paid £150 deposit. The balance is due in a week or so. Am i right in thinking I can use an FTV I am currently holding to pay the balance but I can't use e-vouchers. Presumably I have to call up to do this since I can't see anyway to do online
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Old Sep 20, 2021, 3:59 am
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Likelihood of BA cancelling flight

Hi All, appreciate the help in advance,

I booked with my wife, her sister and our 3 year old to Boston for early october from london Heathrow directly through BA.. I was hoping they would cancel the flights because usa borders are still not open to uk travellers, however I've looked online today and the scheduled flight Ba213 seems to be flying daily.

My question is what is the likelihood of BA cancelling our flights (so i can get a cash refund) and if so, when do they usually do it?

If they dont cancel would i be getting a future voucher or standard voucher as i understand future voucher means i have to travel with the same people for any future bookings.. Which i dont intend to as this was a one off trip to celebrate sister in laws 21st birthday.

Any advice and responses appreciated.

Thanks
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Old Sep 20, 2021, 4:29 am
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Quick one... BA downgraded my first class flight to a business class flight, and then completely cancelled my flight, moving me to the next day (which doesn't work for me as I need to be there for an event).

Can I request they route me with a stop rather than direct? If so, can I ask them to fly me with AA to give me more options?

Edit - Also, possibility to use nearby airports instead?

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Old Sep 20, 2021, 4:33 am
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Another Extending Companion Voucher Question I'm Afraid....

Originally Posted by redrose59
We have a 2-4-1 voucher which expires on 02-01-2022. Am I correct in thinking that it is still possible to book a flight to "somewhere, anywhere" and then cancel it and have the voucher extended until 2023?

Many thanks
Originally Posted by mikeyfly
Yes, still in place
Hi - just needing to check if the Companion Voucher is valid for travel through to the end of April 2023? We had our flights to/from Aus in March 2022 cancelled a few weeks ago, but won't be able to travel until late March 2023, returning mid April 2023, so it looks as if I will have to book a short-haul flight (does it have to be a return or will a one-way flight MAN-LHR suffice?).

Many thanks.
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Old Sep 20, 2021, 5:47 am
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Hi.

Can someone advise re flight changes. I have a flight booked for LGW-ANU return. I would like to change the return portion to depart from another airport.
Is this possible? and how would the new cost be calculated? (Booking price-current price?)
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Old Sep 20, 2021, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by watsonville
Hi.

Can someone advise re flight changes. I have a flight booked for LGW-ANU return. I would like to change the return portion to depart from another airport.
Is this possible? and how would the new cost be calculated? (Booking price-current price?)
Theres no amendment fees right now so it will be a simple fare difference, which you should be able to work out online. If the whole thing is cheaper, you can cancel to voucher and rebook with the voucher keeping the residual amount back in your favour
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