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Old Jan 1, 2021, 8:29 am
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01 - If your flight is cancelled by BA:

Commercial booking: Your options are: cash refund OR Future Travel Voucher (FTV) OR rebooking OR Avios credit

Redemption booking: Your options are: full refund of cash and Avios OR FTV OR rebooking.

BA Holidays booking: You should be given a refund pro-actively.

If your flight is cancelled by BA - any flight in the PNR - you can get a full refund so long as you booked directly with BA. You can only get a refund by telephoning BA. Refunds are taking between a few hours to a few weeks to be repaid, depending on the sort of booking made. If you don't wish to travel you can opt for an FTV or eVoucher valid for travel until 30 April 2023 (now extended from April 2022 including existing FTVs), though flights more than 355 days away are not currently bookable - flights are enabled at 355 days before departure. Vouchers such as 2-4-1 are also thereby extended. You can do this even if the flight is operating. The best advice we can give is to delay opting for an eVoucher options until the last moment, since if BA cancel your flight you have more options. BA have also adjusted the Standard Customer Guidelines so that if BA cancel the flight you can be rebooked to anytime in 12 months after you originally bought the ticket, so long as there is space in the cabin - there is no need to have a fare bucket available or Avios availability. If you choose the Avios credit you will get between 108 to 126 Avios per GBP of your fare. If you us,ed an FTV to pay for this now cancelled service then you can have a refund back to the FTV's original booking.

Online forms: manual process which may take many weeks
link to webform to claim a refund (UK) or link to webform to claim a refund (US)

Paid Seating Refund:
link to webform to claim a refund (UK)



02 - If your flight is not cancelled but you no longer wish to travel

Commercial booking: If you are eligible for Buy with Confidence, you can have an FTV valid until 31 August 2022 (this has been extended several times). Rebooking may lead to a fare recalculation but no change fee. Travel must be fully completed by this date.

Redemption booking: Your can do the normal Avios refund, with the redeposit fee capped at GBP 35 per person. Alternatively for the same fee you can rebook to new dates subject to availability. Alternatively you can have an FTV.

BA Holidays booking: You may be get a refund proactively, otherwise you are looking at an FTV for at least the flight component of your trip, maybe for all components.

If all of the flights in your booking are still scheduled and you don't wish to travel then you best wait until a few days before departure in case there is a cancellation. As you can see above, a cancellation gives you better options. You are in scope with Buy with Confidence if you are flying between now and completing travel before 30 April 2022, also if you bought your ticket after 3 March and due to complete all flights before September 2021. The BA web page on this is: https://ba.com/confidence

Bookings made using Lloyds Upgrade Voucher
You should expect to receive:
A full refund of Avios and money paid plus a new voucher issued, which has validity for 6 months (from the date of issue, i.e. when you request the 'refund')

Lloyds Upgrade Voucher Notes
  • Flights can be used within 12 months, so it will be good for travel up until the end 6 months plus 12 months if you book just before the new expiry
  • It's been advised to take the voucher instead of rebooking as it gives me more flexibility.
  • The original expiry date of the voucher was irrelevant because the booking was cancelled.
  • You must book within 6 months of the voucher being issued and the ticket has 12 months validity so you can change flights after, provided the new flights are within the 12 month window.
  • You won't receive any email, only the refund and the miles.


03 - How to find out the status of your voucher and the amount it contains

Use the Qantas website and look back to your original PNR. Step by step guide by corporate-wage-slave


04 - Future Travel Vouchers versus eVouchers

FTVs cannot be used online (and are not really vouchers), whereas eVouchers, issued for simple bookings, can be used online.

BA are now issuing eVouchers directly in simple cases, and also proactively replacing existing FTVs with new eVouchers. These are usable online. Complex cases still get FTVs, which require a phone call to book. In both cases, you need to apply online through the Cancellation Options in MMB, and both will generate an email typically within a few minutes. This is how to tell the difference

1) eVouchers will get an email entitled "Your British Airways eVoucher"
This will then have a line like this and the online ability is mentioned in the email text:
Your eVoucher details
125-1234567890 / GBP48.87 / WAGE-SLAVE /

2) FTVs will get an email entitled "Your British Airways Future Travel Voucher"
The relevant line then shows:
Voucher code(s)
125-1234567890

It doesn't take much, by FT standards, to turn a booking too complicated for the automated eVoucher. POUGs, flight changes, TCP, seat payment, pay payment with Avios, UuA. 48 and 72 hour Hold bookings all stop it. But if you made a simple single or return booking, point to point, on BA.com and didn't change it, then you should get an eVoucher.

If you obtain an FTV, deploy it on a new booking which BA then cancels, then you can get a refund of the cash from the first booking that led to the FTV. Or an Avios refund without redeposit fees if it was a redemption.
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 9:45 am
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I've got Hawaii / Vegas combo booked for end of October.... fingers crossed things are settled down, it is beyond BWC, besides I really wanna go !
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 11:33 am
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My third flight has been cancelled for 7th Feb.
I have the email from BA this morning saying cancelled with no alternatives.
At what point can I decide a refund / change flights? Ideally hoping as close to 7th as possible depending on the negiative covid test restrictions are decided, OR will BA proactively offer me a refund (not what I want).
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
You can now apply for a refund online if your flight has been cancelled, I think this was added maybe 3-4 weeks ago. On the Future Travel Voucher page follow the link at the top for "Apply for a refund" in the box headed "What if your flight has been cancelled?".
Just a word of warning on this. I asked for a refund online with this form rather than phoning as I was busy. Six days later I phoned to refund another flight similarly effected and the second refund hit my card before the first. Both simple flight only with no avios to muddy the water.
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by marconess
My third flight has been cancelled for 7th Feb.
I have the email from BA this morning saying cancelled with no alternatives.
At what point can I decide a refund / change flights? Ideally hoping as close to 7th as possible depending on the negiative covid test restrictions are decided, OR will BA proactively offer me a refund (not what I want).
You can leave it until the first flight on your schedule, or even later if it is that flight which is cancelled. It is easier for the agent to rebook it if you do it before the first flight, but you certainly don't need to rush at this point.
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Appreciate a lot of crystal ball gazing required here. - due to be off to NYC in April for a holiday; looks increasingly unlikely I’ll be able to go with the latest strain. In light of the USA travel ban is it just the standard BA cancellation options that apply?
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by londonba2014
Appreciate a lot of crystal ball gazing required here. - due to be off to NYC in April for a holiday; looks increasingly unlikely I’ll be able to go with the latest strain. In light of the USA travel ban is it just the standard BA cancellation options that apply?
yes it would be hope for a cancellation so you can get a full refund, and if that doesn’t happen take a FTV.
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For those with an immediate need to fly out of the UK to places where BA have cancelled flights - pleased to confirm that Lufthansa do allow UK to Non-Schengen transit at FRA/MUC as long as you: have a PCR test within the last 48 hours, don't attempt to immigrate at FRA/MUC and meet the eligibility criteria for immigration at your destination.

It says it on the website: https://www.lufthansa.com/xx/en/flight-information.html but can confirm it's the case.
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 3:11 pm
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If I book a BA holiday and pay the deposit with cash, can I then later on an FTV to pay off the final amount? Can I also use multiple FTV's issued to different people for different bookings? They'd all come on the same trip, but clearly only one of us would make the booking.
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by just_starting
If I book a BA holiday and pay the deposit with cash, can I then later on an FTV to pay off the final amount? Can I also use multiple FTV's issued to different people for different bookings? They'd all come on the same trip, but clearly only one of us would make the booking.
Certainly yes to the first question, you can use an FTV to pay off the final settlement amount on BAH, the biggest condition is that it has to be a new booking, started after getting the FTV from a previous booking, whether flight or BAH. For the second question, I also think that can be done, but I can't recall anyone doing this. If the FTVs came from a BAH booking then logically it should be OK, and I can't see why a Flight FTV would be different. Redemption FTVs can only be used on new redemption bookings.
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Certainly yes to the first question, you can use an FTV to pay off the final settlement amount on BAH, the biggest condition is that it has to be a new booking, started after getting the FTV from a previous booking, whether flight or BAH. For the second question, I also think that can be done, but I can't recall anyone doing this. If the FTVs came from a BAH booking then logically it should be OK, and I can't see why a Flight FTV would be different. Redemption FTVs can only be used on new redemption bookings.
Right, that bit would destroy my plan then - are you 100% on that? Seems a bit odd and doesn't seem to be stated anywhere obvious, but I'm not gonna doubt you! Is this definitely being enforced?

In my case I made a flight-only booking a year ago for a trip that has now been moved to April, but is unlikely to happen.

I will make a BA Holidays booking for April/May as a back-up, which I was planning to pay with the flight-only FTVs (if the flight doesn't get cancelled anyway).
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 4:10 pm
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Right, that bit would destroy my plan then - are you 100% on that? Seems a bit odd and doesn't seem to be stated anywhere obvious, but I'm not gonna doubt you! Is this definitely being enforced?
There were a few datapoints on this in the early part of the previous thread, where acceptance of FTVs on BAH was conditional on it being for a new booking, not paying off an existing booking. I'm not sure I quite understand what you are aiming for, since if using BAH is a back up for a flight only booking then surely it's just tying yourself in even more knots? I would discourage "maybe" bookings anyway. But if you are flight only and claim an FTV that kind of implies the service is running but you are not on the service by choice, so why rebook via BAH?
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
There were a few datapoints on this in the early part of the previous thread, where acceptance of FTVs on BAH was conditional on it being for a new booking, not paying off an existing booking. I'm not sure I quite understand what you are aiming for, since if using BAH is a back up for a flight only booking then surely it's just tying yourself in even more knots? I would discourage "maybe" bookings anyway. But if you are flight only and claim an FTV that kind of implies the service is running but you are not on the service by choice, so why rebook via BAH?
Right, let me expand a bit more - our flights are to GRU, but our final destination would be Chile/Patagonia. GRU flights run on cargo alone, and assuming Brazil lift their ban I very much expect this flight to be going daily again.

We'll have to make the decision of whether we're fly to Brazil and holiday there, or instead cancel altogether and head to the Caribbean. Caribbean prices are still quite low right now, but are selling quickly with some flights down to J0 already.

Rebooking via BAH would mean only paying a small deposit to secure those fares with 0 risk unless I'm missing something!
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by just_starting
Rebooking via BAH would mean only paying a small deposit to secure those fares with 0 risk unless I'm missing something!
There is absolutely no "zero risk" going at the moment, all bookings are open to bad outcomes. But if you want another maybe booking - something which I think is unwise - then presumably you could apply for the FTV on the GRU flight now, and assuming it's a simple booking it will become available for use immediately. You could then deploy it to make a flight only booking to the Caribbean and separately book hotels which have similar "buy with confidence" refund conditions. If that too goes Pete Tong then (a) it's more likely to cancel so you can get a cash refund on your GRU booking and (b) you can still claim an FTV, so you're no worse off than now. If your trip starts from the UK then you are also at risk of BAH cancelling your trip to respect UK government guidelines.
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
There is absolutely no "zero risk" going at the moment, all bookings are open to bad outcomes. But if you want another maybe booking - something which I think is unwise - then presumably you could apply for the FTV on the GRU flight now, and assuming it's a simple booking it will become available for use immediately. You could then deploy it to make a flight only booking to the Caribbean and separately book hotels which have similar "buy with confidence" refund conditions. If that too goes Pete Tong then (a) it's more likely to cancel so you can get a cash refund on your GRU booking and (b) you can still claim an FTV, so you're no worse off than now. If your trip starts from the UK then you are also at risk of BAH cancelling your trip to respect UK government guidelines.
I don't quite follow I think - if I claim an FTV for GRU now then I'm definitely giving up on that trip which I'd rather not. That'd be a write-off of a couple grand as we speak, given all our internal SA flights are still operating. Furthermore the booking has a few UK-EU sectors in it as well, so I expect some movement there too which should allow me to cancel the whole thing anyway.

The Caribbean booking is "zero risk" in terms of I only pay them a couple hundred quid, which in the worst case I get back as a voucher. But at least I've secured my seats and the fare, and I'm quite likely to actually get a holiday.
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Old Jan 8, 2021, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by just_starting
I don't quite follow I think - if I claim an FTV for GRU now then I'm definitely giving up on that trip which I'd rather not. That'd be a write-off of a couple grand as we speak, given all our internal SA flights are still operating. Furthermore the booking has a few UK-EU sectors in it as well, so I expect some movement there too which should allow me to cancel the whole thing anyway.

The Caribbean booking is "zero risk" in terms of I only pay them a couple hundred quid, which in the worst case I get back as a voucher. But at least I've secured my seats and the fare, and I'm quite likely to actually get a holiday.
Ok, so you want two bookings to run consecutively. You pay the deposit on the Caribbean trip, final payment won't be until 3 weeks before travel, and if you select a hotel with good cancellation policies, then the worst case outcome is a FTV for that deposit, and you go to Brazil instead. If you have what appears to be more than a simple LHR-GRU then the worst case scenario is an FTV for LHR-GRU but in reality you appear to want to go to Brazil / South America if possible, so it's a cancellation which will stop you and at that point you get a cash refund anyway, plus if it is actually more complex than LHR-GRU then there is a high risk of at least one sector being cancelled.

None of the above seems sensible to me, since these areas are not actively rolling oiut vaccines, making April a somewhat unlikely travel prospect to my mind. A better idea is to wait and see, I think it is implausble that flights in April will be full /expensive, but some flights are at risk of being zero'd out due to the current ban on leisure travel. This ban extends to end March at the moment.
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