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Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Executive Club Tier Flexibility Policy
We understand the substantial impact these unprecedented times are having on the lives of our Executive Club Members. We have taken steps to protect the Tier status and well-earned benefits of our Members.

We’ll be lowering Tier Point thresholds by 30% for all Members due for Tier upgrade or renewal in April, May and June. This results in lower Tier qualification thresholds as laid out below
  • Bronze: 210 Tier Points
  • Silver: 420 Tier Points
  • Gold: 1050 Tier Points
  • Gold Guest List (Renewal): 2100 Tier Points (not on BA.com, internal only)
    Gold Guest List (Upgrade): 3500 Tier Points (not on BA.com, internal only)

To ensure our Members still have the opportunity to use their Gold Upgrade Vouchers, Companion Vouchers and Travel Together Tickets earned via a British Airways credit card, we’re applying a six-month expiration extension to any current vouchers.

The situation is constantly changing, which is why we’re continuously reviewing our policy and will communicate any updates.


See here for details: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/executive-club/tiers-and-benefits?dr=&dt=British%20Airways%20%7C%20Book%20F lights,%20Holidays,%20City%20Breaks%20%26%20Check% 20In%20Online&scheme=&audience=travel&CUSTSEG=&GGL Member=&ban=c2b728e5fe0683865614c44450048aa6%7C%7C CAM%7C6%7CCTA1%7C1%7C%7C%7C%7CHOME%7C%7C%7C%7CL4%7 C%7C%7C%7Canonymous-inspiration%7C%7C%7C&KMtag=c&KMver=1.0&clickpage=H OME#flexibility

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How do I benefit from the Tier Flexibility policy?If you are eligible for a Tier upgrade or renewal under this policy, there is no need to contact us. This will be processed automatically once your Tier Point collection year ends and you will receive an email from the Executive Club team to confirm this.

In the meantime, you will not see any changes to your account until the start of your new Tier Point collection year.

My Tier Point collection year ends in July 2020 or thereafter. Does the Tier Flexibility policy apply to me?The Tier Flexibility policy only applies to Members due for renewal in April, May and June 2020. We understand that the situation is constantly changing, which is why we are continuously reviewing our policies and will be in touch with any changes that are applicable to your membership in the future. There is no need to contact us.

Where can I see my Tier Point collection year end date?This can be viewed on the My Executive Club page or the mobile app. This is shown underneath your current Tier Point total, or at the bottom of the ‘My account’ page on the mobile app.

Do I need to reach the eligible flights required for my Tier to benefit from the 30% Tier Point threshold reduction?The eligible flight requirements have been waived for Members who qualify for the 30% Tier Point threshold reduction in order to renew or upgrade.

I redeemed a Companion Voucher, or Travel Together Ticket, earned via a British Airways credit card on a booking that was changed or cancelled. Does the six-month extension apply to me?If you’ve applied a voucher, or ticket to a booking for travel from 1 March 2020, should your flight(s) get cancelled or you defer your travel to a later date, we will apply a 6-month extension to your voucher. This will happen automatically and there is no need to contact us.

I redeemed a Gold Upgrade Voucher on a booking that was changed or cancelled. Does the six-month extension apply to me?If you’ve applied a voucher to a booking for travel from 1 March 2020, should your flight(s) get cancelled or you defer your travel to a later date, we will apply a six-month extension to your voucher. This will happen automatically and there is no need to contact us.

Is my voucher included in the six-month extension policy?This policy covers all vouchers earned using a British Airways credit card. This includes American Express Companion Vouchers, Chase Travel Together Tickets, RBC Companion Award Vouchers, Asba Companion Vouchers, RSB American Express Companion Vouchers and RSB World Mastercard Companion Vouchers.

This policy also includes Gold Upgrade Vouchers.

I am close to earning a Companion Voucher, or Travel Together Ticket, with a British Airways credit card. Does the 6-month extension apply to me?We want to maximise the opportunity for Members to use their well earned vouchers. If your Companion Voucher, or Travel Together Ticket, earned via a British Airways credit card is issued during March, April, May or June, we will be automatically applying a 6-month extension. This may take some time to reflect in your account, however there is no need to contact us.

This does not currently apply to Gold Upgrade Vouchers.
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Old May 27, 2020, 3:39 am
  #1666  
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
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Originally Posted by wilsnunn
For those of you who talk about leaving BAEC, or at least moving a portion of your business to another FFP, does Gold for Life not play a part of your thinking, is this because:

1) you think that GfL might not survive this
2) you are too far away to even bother thinking about it
3) you don't actually care about GfL

Do BA think that their GfL is enough to keep people regardless of what they do? Surely that is the entire point of GfL, to keep people flying with BA even if their travel patterns have changed, e.g. leaving a job with a lot of travel and not being too far off the magic 35,000 Lifetime TPs.
For me, I have personally never been Gold and my lifetime TP is a 4 digit number less than 5000.
If I was somewhere around 30000 TP, I would have stuck with BAEC for a while, but if another frequent flyer program offers more benefits for a cheaper value, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. Such as, if my QRPC status match ( from TK*G is approved ), I would switch my OW program to QRPC rather than BAEC.
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Old May 27, 2020, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer
For me, I have personally never been Gold and my lifetime TP is a 4 digit number less than 5000.
If I was somewhere around 30000 TP, I would have stuck with BAEC for a while, but if another frequent flyer program offers more benefits for a cheaper value, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. Such as, if my QRPC status match ( from TK*G is approved ), I would switch my OW program to QRPC rather than BAEC.
In general, the QR programme is very much inferior to BA's. I used it for my excess OneWorld miles, but found it so unfriendly my QR account is now empty. BA status gets me all I need travelling on QR: I'm not dazzled by the prospect of al Safwa.

But for all that I also tried the status match if they match TK's E+ to platinum, I'll give it another try.

The balance between the programmes of course shifts with your base, and your travel patterns. QR certainly serves plenty of destinations east of Turkey: and there were some stonkingly good business-class fares with Qatar out of izmir - though these seem to have been pulled.
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Old May 27, 2020, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK
In general, the QR programme is very much inferior to BA's. I used it for my excess OneWorld miles, but found it so unfriendly my QR account is now empty. BA status gets me all I need travelling on QR: I'm not dazzled by the prospect of al Safwa.

But for all that I also tried the status match if they match TK's E+ to platinum, I'll give it another try.
They did accept applications until Sunday 24 May 23:59 ( GMT +1 ). I'm not sure if the offer has been extended.
By the way, if I'm matched to Silver ( OW Ruby ) or Gold ( OW Sapphire ), I would continue with BAEC.

Originally Posted by IAN-UK
The balance between the programmes of course shifts with your base, and your travel patterns. QR certainly serves plenty of destinations east of Turkey: and there were some stonkingly good business-class fares with Qatar out of izmir - though these seem to have been pulled.
Unfortunately, they have pulled out those super nice fares. However, there are some good ex-SAW fares available at the moment but they are not good as the old ex-ADB fares.
Izmir to Perth for $1800 r/t, Izmir to Cape Town for $1178 r/t was some nice J fares that I've spotted in the past.
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Old May 27, 2020, 7:47 am
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QR Privilege Club status match campaign:

Campaign Period: 20 May 2020 – 27 May 2020, 11.59 PM PDT (Pacific Daylight Time).

Members who wish to receive the status match should provide the documents on or before 27 May 2020, 11.59 PM PDT (Pacific Daylight Time).

https://www.qatarairways.com/en-us/P...550b8c0a18050d
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Old May 27, 2020, 11:21 am
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Sorry dumbass question here Too many pages to try and find an answer:

Currently Silver with 1150 TP and year end 8th June. So it looks like i have enough TP's fo Gold, but BA's website states "Members due for Tier upgrade". In essence i wasnt due a Tier upgrade, but maybe i am now. If so why hasnt my status changed ?

Thanks
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Old May 27, 2020, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by Chinsexpat
Sorry dumbass question here Too many pages to try and find an answer:

Currently Silver with 1150 TP and year end 8th June. So it looks like i have enough TP's fo Gold, but BA's website states "Members due for Tier upgrade". In essence i wasnt due a Tier upgrade, but maybe i am now. If so why hasnt my status changed ?

Thanks
It will happen automatically on 9th June.
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Old May 27, 2020, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Thanks, I did search around and on LH's site but didn't find that.
Originally Posted by Chinsexpat
Sorry dumbass question here Too many pages to try and find an answer:

Currently Silver with 1150 TP and year end 8th June. So it looks like i have enough TP's fo Gold, but BA's website states "Members due for Tier upgrade". In essence i wasnt due a Tier upgrade, but maybe i am now. If so why hasnt my status changed ?

Thanks

Please give us some feedback after 9th June it would be much appreciated.
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Old May 27, 2020, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Misco60

No-one whose collection year ends in July and beyond needs to know right now what their status will be next year.
I would argue there's a point rapidly coming into view at which it potentially starts to harm BA commercially for BAEC members with year ends in the next few months not to know yet what their status is next year. Other airlines haven't done it already out of the good of their hearts, they've done it to make sure they retain customers. People in the UK (i.e. BAEC's main customer base) will be tentatively beginning planning for later in the year now it seems an end to lockdown is coming into sight. If I have a July or August year end and I'm now looking to book a business trip to Europe for September (i.e. falling into my next BAEC year), not knowing if I'm retaining BA status or not is likely going to be part of my thinking.
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Old May 27, 2020, 4:16 pm
  #1674  
 
Join Date: May 2020
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Currently at 1440 TP with July renewal. No travel on cards. Really hope they extend. Will definitely influence my choice of airline when we start to fly again if they don’t.
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Old May 27, 2020, 4:36 pm
  #1675  
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Originally Posted by Dsl1976
Currently at 1440 TP with July renewal. No travel on cards. Really hope they extend. Will definitely influence my choice of airline when we start to fly again if they don’t.
Hello Dsl1976 and welcome to FlyerTalk. I am sure you will have no problem at all with that renewal at gold and I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Please do report back once your position has been clarified for you. My guess is that you will have your answer by the middle of June.
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Old May 28, 2020, 8:10 am
  #1676  
 
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Dear Mr X,

We hope you and your family are keeping well during these difficult times.

We’re writing to let you know about some changes to your Executive Club membership. These changes include adding an arbitration agreement and class action waiver to our Terms and Conditions from 28 May 2020.

At British Airways, we would always try to informally settle any issues that may arise. However, if that’s not possible, we require our US and Canadian Members, such as yourself, to use arbitration to resolve disputes individually – and not through a court or a class action.

You’ll be asked to accept these changes the next time you book with us on ba.com. Until then, you can also review these updated Executive Club Terms and Conditions online.

Thank you as always for your continued loyalty.

With best wishes,
Your Executive Club Team
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Old May 28, 2020, 8:17 am
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Completely off-topic for this thread, but interesting nonetheless.

Given the litigation culture in the US - and which has spread over there to UK - I'm amazed this isn't already in place already, e.g. you can only fly if you agree not to join a class action suit. I guess it's like the Ts and Cs on your iPhone or on Google, you are perfectly within your rights to disagree with them, and in return you can't use the device/service.

Given EasyJet's news this week (off-topic I know), and the class-action that's already been launched, I can imagine a rush to bring similar policies in elsewhere too, if they are legal and not against consumer laws.
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Old May 28, 2020, 8:31 am
  #1678  
 
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Originally Posted by HighwayToHEL
Completely off-topic for this thread...
Yes, but you could discuss it in the existing https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...n-members.html thread.
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Old May 28, 2020, 8:49 am
  #1679  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: NCL
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I've spent 14 years making my way up through the tiers with many years stuck at Bronze and Silver before achieving Gold for the first time in March 2020.
My annual TP collection isn't evenly spread over 12 months, most would have been collected From March - July.
I will be a thoroughly miffed customer if BA don't extend Tier Point collection year by 12 months, yes - miffed enough to move back to KLM/AF an easy decision from my regional outpost NCL.
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Old May 28, 2020, 10:08 am
  #1680  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Dallas, US
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my Gold just got downgraded as I was short on TP by 40... I called but they politely said "I am sorry, we cannot make an exception".
I did not have cancelled flights to get to 1500 TP and my account was 1010 at the end of my year... A shame that I will lose my gold and honestly I weird gesture when AA or IB are renewing but we know BA for the good and for the bad.

Anyone got any type of exception?

PS; I could have flown 40TP easily but honestly I did not want to risk my health to this.
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