CW pricing to NY looks crazy
#16
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
No. Entirely normal. Welcome to the world of business travel.
Whilst I prefer to ensure that my TATL crossings are cheaper than this (booking further out, starting from different but useful locations), my firm has paid similar rates for travel. It’s very common.
Whilst I prefer to ensure that my TATL crossings are cheaper than this (booking further out, starting from different but useful locations), my firm has paid similar rates for travel. It’s very common.
#18
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lincoln UK
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This is a really interesting thread - as a manager I would not want to travel in a higher cabin than a member of my team. As a team member I would be quite irked by a manager who would happily travel in a higher cabin, despite us being in the same team.
My team members work as hard as I - why treat them any differently?
My team members work as hard as I - why treat them any differently?
#19
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Join Date: Sep 2019
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I don't have anything against him flying business class. If I was allowed to I wouldn't fly PE although I think the policy is a bit stupid because it's not like loads more people get t travel because of the premium economy policy.
#20
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: LAX
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This is a really interesting thread - as a manager I would not want to travel in a higher cabin than a member of my team. As a team member I would be quite irked by a manager who would happily travel in a higher cabin, despite us being in the same team.
My team members work as hard as I - why treat them any differently?
My team members work as hard as I - why treat them any differently?
These days I never even see my managers, and at some level I hope they don't fly with me: can't pull shenanigans with fares in most systems, but segments and occasionally out of the way connecting flights for miles on reimbursable travel? Please stay home boss .
#21
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I'm supposed to be going on my first transatlantic business trip in March to NYC (very excited). My company has a PE travel policy for my level but my boss gets to go J was hoping to try and play the oh lets go on the same flight trick and see if travel will put us together. Anyway I was looking at flights and it looks like £500 is for pe which seems a bit cheaper than standard then I had a look at CW and it is 6k for the first and second week of march.
Enjoy your first biz transatlantic, and try upgrade your WTP flights with Avios, if you have any and the availability is there.
#23
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You raise some valid points! I wasn't looking to go out of my way to ask if it's not on the cards but would be a nice bonus as I don't think I'll be going again in a hurry. I was more perplexed by the fact they're charging 6k for a flight that I've paid 1k for in the past! I guess there are a lot of businesses that will pay this. When I included a Sunday night the tickets halved so I guess that is the reason. Thanks all! Also I'll get silver on my return leg has anyone had any luck with getting into the lounge when they're going to get silver on the flight they're waiting for? Or is it not worth asking.
#24
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Crazy isn't it when I just booked a mid week CW trip (Mon-Thu) to JFK starting in TLV for the same period (2nd week of March) yesterday paying just under £2000, and that will earn me double the TPs and more Avios than that £6k fare out of LHR would
Enjoy your first biz transatlantic, and try upgrade your WTP flights with Avios, if you have any and the availability is there.
Enjoy your first biz transatlantic, and try upgrade your WTP flights with Avios, if you have any and the availability is there.
Unfortunately I didn't have time to ex-eu as I need to be somewhere else on Friday the week before and week after.
The base fares have definitely increased though.
#25
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I don't know why people say that the CW prices to NYC from LON are super expensive.
First BA is offering a direct flight ( No positioning flight, no extra security at XXX, save minimum 2h-3h compared to a connecting flight ) and even though it may seem high, there are people/companies willing to pay the 2000-4000 GBP difference to fly direct. This is the marketing strategy of almost all airlines, if I don't recall wrongly, someone was complaining in the UA forum that EWR-FRA was significantly expensive than EWR-FRA-XXX in Business Class. Also add the fact that as British Airways is the home airline of the United Kingdom, most frequent flyers decide to collect miles at oneworld partners and prefer them so it might also affect the prices.
Also, for the last case, the case of carat22 , BA is taking advantage of his situation as he doesn't have a flexible schedule or other possibilities as he wants to spend the weekend with his family so he doesn't want to leave on Sunday, etc... For his exact dates, Icelandair has a promotional Business Class offer around low 1k GBP and Aer Lingus flies for 2.3k GBP.
First BA is offering a direct flight ( No positioning flight, no extra security at XXX, save minimum 2h-3h compared to a connecting flight ) and even though it may seem high, there are people/companies willing to pay the 2000-4000 GBP difference to fly direct. This is the marketing strategy of almost all airlines, if I don't recall wrongly, someone was complaining in the UA forum that EWR-FRA was significantly expensive than EWR-FRA-XXX in Business Class. Also add the fact that as British Airways is the home airline of the United Kingdom, most frequent flyers decide to collect miles at oneworld partners and prefer them so it might also affect the prices.
Also, for the last case, the case of carat22 , BA is taking advantage of his situation as he doesn't have a flexible schedule or other possibilities as he wants to spend the weekend with his family so he doesn't want to leave on Sunday, etc... For his exact dates, Icelandair has a promotional Business Class offer around low 1k GBP and Aer Lingus flies for 2.3k GBP.
#26
Join Date: Aug 2019
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When I've booked PE for a 6+ hour flight, I've been able to upgrade to Business for much less than the 4k, 5k and 6k crazy prices which Egencia had at the time of booking. I've done this via:
- Free upgrade 3 hours of so before boarding and done automatically (BA)
- Free upgrade 3 hours of so before boarding and done automatically (BA)
#28
Join Date: Jul 2007
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You are not the only one. I love travelling with my boss, and have been doing so for 32 years of marriage. My challenge is that she insists on flying business class whether I can afford if or not. If that means I have to sit in Y, too bad for me
#29
Join Date: Jun 2018
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Any booking to NYC without a Saturday night or a min of 6 days carries a high premium it even say's so on the website when searching( although if you have a corporate TA I accept you wouldn't have seen the site). It's to protect the leisure fares from being snapped up by business users - ironically as it's their fares which allow us leisure travellers to travel at those rates especially on that route.
Even then though we put off NYE 19/20 in NYC when the J fares were £5k each for a four day jaunt with a Saturday in it! Lesson learnt though, don't look to book such things in November and snap them up in the Jan sale. NYE 20/21 was a much more reasonable price booked that way
Even then though we put off NYE 19/20 in NYC when the J fares were £5k each for a four day jaunt with a Saturday in it! Lesson learnt though, don't look to book such things in November and snap them up in the Jan sale. NYE 20/21 was a much more reasonable price booked that way
#30
Join Date: Jan 2020
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I can only put it down to:
- busy flight, especially WT
- I was on my own and would be occupying a window seat in WTP with the seat next to me showing as unoccupied on Expert Flyer right up to around 4 hours before boarding.
Perhaps they had 2 folk on standby for WT, so bumped up two WT people (a couple) to WTP and so moved me to CW to free up the row in WTP...result = two seats in WT free for standby passengers. That's my theory.