Would you risk 2h 50m CX / BA at HKG?
#32
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Not really. If you are in Central and traffic is bad or the train has delays you can work around this. You can plan. If you are at a distant airport your only option is booking yourself an earlier flight if yours is delayed or cancelled, and usually this isn't an option. It is far more binary.
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Not really. If you are in Central and traffic is bad or the train has delays you can work around this. You can plan. If you are at a distant airport your only option is booking yourself an earlier flight if yours is delayed or cancelled, and usually this isn't an option. It is far more binary.
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I would welcome your advice. Thanks in advance.
I am considering a short connection at HKG. The CX 174 (from ADL) is due to arrive at 20.55
The BA 28 (on a separate ticket) is due to depart at 23.45
- Too close, or don't worry?
(The alternative is a day in HKG, plus hotel, etc).
I am considering a short connection at HKG. The CX 174 (from ADL) is due to arrive at 20.55
The BA 28 (on a separate ticket) is due to depart at 23.45
- Too close, or don't worry?
(The alternative is a day in HKG, plus hotel, etc).
that said having bags may give me a moments hesitation.
the weather however is what you need to think about. There are times in the year when storms and lightening do impact HKG operations.
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Hi,
With bags ( not sure if the OP has any bags) CX to BA on separate tickets is not a problem as Cathay will interline to BA ( the otherway ( BA to CX ) would be a lot tighter as bags would need to be collected and rechecked.
As others have said if everything runs ok it will not be a problem but the cost could be high if you have a lengthy delay.
Regards
TBS
With bags ( not sure if the OP has any bags) CX to BA on separate tickets is not a problem as Cathay will interline to BA ( the otherway ( BA to CX ) would be a lot tighter as bags would need to be collected and rechecked.
As others have said if everything runs ok it will not be a problem but the cost could be high if you have a lengthy delay.
Regards
TBS
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Not to derail (excuse the pun) the discussion, but I feel that is a slightly different situation. If one were to get stuck on the HEX to LHR and be delayed for 90 minutes, I hope the airline would be sympathetic; this is such an unlikely event that one can’t really plan around it. I think BA specifically allows for this in the T&C’s (the flat tyre rule). Whereas ‘connecting’ on separate tickets, while perhaps not gaming the system exactly, is not protected as a matter of policy. Not to mention, if the incoming flight ends up getting diverted for whatever reason, one wouldn’t necessarily have a way to contact the airline, thus being deemed a no-show.
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So the consensus seems to be
CX will interline so you won’t need to go landside - meaning even if the inbound is up to about 75-90 minutes late on stand, it should not be a significant concern. In normal operations it should be fine.
BA will not guarantee to protect you. So if you do miss the flight the risk is with you.
Seems that the question is whether you can afford to buy a new ticket if you do miss it. Are you sure that 2 separate tickets really are that much cheaper?
Personally, I wouldn’t take that risk. Whilst CX may be punctual, things do go wrong sometimes and low risk does not equate to no risk.
CX will interline so you won’t need to go landside - meaning even if the inbound is up to about 75-90 minutes late on stand, it should not be a significant concern. In normal operations it should be fine.
BA will not guarantee to protect you. So if you do miss the flight the risk is with you.
Seems that the question is whether you can afford to buy a new ticket if you do miss it. Are you sure that 2 separate tickets really are that much cheaper?
Personally, I wouldn’t take that risk. Whilst CX may be punctual, things do go wrong sometimes and low risk does not equate to no risk.
Last edited by IAMORGAN; Nov 2, 2019 at 6:02 pm
#39
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I have a different view than many here.
50min is a decent time for connection (CX and BA flights will be in the main terminal, not the North satellite).
Hence you have a 2h risk premium.
2h should insure a "normal" operational delay. To go over that you would need some "special" event such as some ATC strike or a tech problem. These happen, but they can result in flight cancellation and the like. Whether 6 or 10 transit time would hedge that is unclear.
We have no idea of the kinds of ticket you contemplate. CX is only 4 weekly (currently) with two very different schedules. Both BA flights depart in the evening within a few minutes, so little flexibility there.
If it were me, I would take a 2h50 connection at HKIA and relax.
50min is a decent time for connection (CX and BA flights will be in the main terminal, not the North satellite).
Hence you have a 2h risk premium.
2h should insure a "normal" operational delay. To go over that you would need some "special" event such as some ATC strike or a tech problem. These happen, but they can result in flight cancellation and the like. Whether 6 or 10 transit time would hedge that is unclear.
We have no idea of the kinds of ticket you contemplate. CX is only 4 weekly (currently) with two very different schedules. Both BA flights depart in the evening within a few minutes, so little flexibility there.
If it were me, I would take a 2h50 connection at HKIA and relax.
Last edited by brunos; Nov 2, 2019 at 1:21 pm
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I have a different view than many here.
50min is a decent time for connection (CX and BA flights will be in the main terminal, not the North satellite).
Hence you have a 2h risk premium.
2h should insure a "normal" operational delay. To go over that you would need some "special" event such as some ATC strike or a tech problem. These happen, but they can result in flight cancellation and the like. Whether 6 or 10 transit time would hedge that is unclear.
We have no idea of the kinds of ticket you contemplate. CX is only 4 weekly (currently) with two very different schedules. Both BA flights depart in the evening within a few minutes, so little flexibility there.
If it were me, I would take a 2h50 connection at HKIA and relax.
50min is a decent time for connection (CX and BA flights will be in the main terminal, not the North satellite).
Hence you have a 2h risk premium.
2h should insure a "normal" operational delay. To go over that you would need some "special" event such as some ATC strike or a tech problem. These happen, but they can result in flight cancellation and the like. Whether 6 or 10 transit time would hedge that is unclear.
We have no idea of the kinds of ticket you contemplate. CX is only 4 weekly (currently) with two very different schedules. Both BA flights depart in the evening within a few minutes, so little flexibility there.
If it were me, I would take a 2h50 connection at HKIA and relax.
cheif steward and pilot were a great example of why I love flying BA, don’t think I would have got that service on some other airlines.
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40 posts since the OP last attended - classic BA FT!
Took until post 35 to mention weather.
OP never said when he is travelling. As a local resident I would say don't consider it during Typhoon season unless you have travel insurance that would cover you.
Outside typhoon season a 40 post consensus above suggests safe. I'd tend to agree.
Took until post 35 to mention weather.
OP never said when he is travelling. As a local resident I would say don't consider it during Typhoon season unless you have travel insurance that would cover you.
Outside typhoon season a 40 post consensus above suggests safe. I'd tend to agree.
#43
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Moderately useful advice, as this is highly dependent on the specific insurance policy. There is no norm. And, to be pedantic, there is no such thing as a 'missed connection on separate tickets'. They are separate contracts, fully independent of one another. Some travel insurers will provide limited coverage (say £/$/€ 300 if within certain parameters, others might be a bit more generous, and still others won't cover you at all). Caveat emptor.
Edit: As an example, my Germany-issued Amex Centurion card provides for a measly €250 per passenger for 'missed connections' (these are not further defined), and an additional €600 if the new flight departs more than six hours later or after 2200. Not exactly generous, and pretty useless if you've booked international J or F.
Edit: As an example, my Germany-issued Amex Centurion card provides for a measly €250 per passenger for 'missed connections' (these are not further defined), and an additional €600 if the new flight departs more than six hours later or after 2200. Not exactly generous, and pretty useless if you've booked international J or F.
This isn't cheap insurance but gives peace of mind.
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I would do it.
Pre-requisites
HBO
BA28 OLCI
weather
factors:
HKG transit security is generally quick.
Longhaul into HK is generally early.
No immigration needed.
Both are OW. OW has a procedure for separate ticket connections.
Pre-requisites
HBO
BA28 OLCI
weather
factors:
HKG transit security is generally quick.
Longhaul into HK is generally early.
No immigration needed.
Both are OW. OW has a procedure for separate ticket connections.