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Calchas Aug 21, 2019 8:25 am


Originally Posted by rapidex (Post 31439713)
Young rapidex has been drinking since he was 16. Always polite and well behaved so I had no problem with it.

Ah, he must take after his mother? ;)

Tobias-UK Aug 21, 2019 8:29 am


Originally Posted by TTmex (Post 31439411)
My stepson looks 21, but was 17 on our recent holiday. He was asked both ways on our recent club world trip. He was denied alcohol on outward leg, but allowed on way back as he was then 18. But cc told me they are not allowed to serve under 18s. But not ever cc member checks.

Your mistake, my dear friend, was to ask!

Jr Tobias-UK has been consuming alcohol (in moderation and under my supervision) on board aircraft (including AA) since he was 15!

stampcollector Aug 21, 2019 9:54 am

I was told once that the drinking age on an aircraft relates to the country the aircraft is registered in, but don't know if its enforceable or not

HomerJ Aug 21, 2019 11:07 am

Outside of the Excited States of America...no issue.
I was drinking on board by myself at 16 and 17 on Canadian and International airlines.
Nobody even asked.

Soupdragon62 Aug 21, 2019 11:12 am

Last flight with family, daughter aged 12 was offered a glass of PDB champagne, daughter thought it was a joke, said yes and got a glass - Which i enjoyed.

krispy84 Aug 21, 2019 11:18 am

Every cloud etc.

The next time I’m surrounded by little darlings, rather than grin and bear it, I’ll ask them to take a champagne PDB and share the wealth. 😁

luitje Aug 21, 2019 11:57 am

Isn't that perfectly legal for a minor to consume booze if under a supervision of someone over 18? At least that's how my pub interprets the law. On my recent flight a cabin crew asked a young lad whether he wanted water or juice, and then turned to his mother whilst saying "or champs?" Dude opted for a glass of water (a shame), but I thought cc handled it great.

Bellerina Aug 21, 2019 12:01 pm

If I had to guess, I would suspect US airlines don't serve minors (under 21) for insurance policy purposes (especially if their insurance is US based). I really have no idea, but every time I've seen US companies have policies that are more strict than what is legally allowed, it is because of insurance. All about the $$$

TTmex Aug 21, 2019 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by Tobias-UK (Post 31439791)


Your mistake, my dear friend, was to ask!

Jr Tobias-UK has been consuming alcohol (in moderation and under my supervision) on board aircraft (including AA) since he was 15!

I didn't ask. They outright asked us for proof of his age before serving him. He was sat in 6K and us 7J/K and they came back to us and asked "excuse me, is that your son? if so, have you got proof of his age please? We're not allowed to serve under 18s".

I'd never ask myself. I remember trying to play it cool when I was 17, unfortunately I looked about 12 at the time

ppp909 Aug 21, 2019 1:17 pm

Unfortunately it's not one of those situations where you can say "I forgot my ID. I'm 18, honest." Not that that ever worked for me.

Calchas Aug 22, 2019 4:08 am


Originally Posted by ppp909 (Post 31440949)
Unfortunately it's not one of those situations where you can say "I forgot my ID. I'm 18, honest." Not that that ever worked for me.

I remember the days of half a dozen G&Ts on LHR-LBA in 1A UK domestic class. No ID there.

Sailbot3310 Aug 22, 2019 4:16 am


Originally Posted by stampcollector (Post 31440112)
I was told once that the drinking age on an aircraft relates to the country the aircraft is registered in, but don't know if its enforceable or not

This is what I was told on a VS flight when I was between 18-20. I wasn't allowed the welcome Champagne when on the ground, but the Cabin Crew bought me a glass the moment we were in the air and given that reasoning that when in the air it's the registered country but on the ground it's the physical country.

UKtravelbear Aug 22, 2019 5:28 am


Originally Posted by luitje (Post 31440633)
Isn't that perfectly legal for a minor to consume booze if under a supervision of someone over 18? At least that's how my pub interprets the law. On my recent flight a cabin crew asked a young lad whether he wanted water or juice, and then turned to his mother whilst saying "or champs?" Dude opted for a glass of water (a shame), but I thought cc handled it great.

that’s the position in the U.K. but some states in the US don’t permit it even if under parental supervision.

SkyTeem Aug 22, 2019 7:25 am

In the USA, minimum drinking age is a state law issue, which is only influenced by federal law; federal law withholds highway funds paid to the states if they don't set certain drinking age restrictions. There is no federal law regulating a national minimum drinking age. The states each have their own, nuanced take on when it's legal to serve and to whom (with parents, at a meal, not on Sundays, etc). At least one state left it to each individual county within the state. Regulating conduct aboard an interstate/international air carrier is the purview of federal law, which my 5-minute lexis search has determined is silent on the issue of a minimum age. Therefore, I am of the opinion that it is cultural expectations, not "federal reggalashuns," which lead to each individual US air carrier's rules on the service of alcoholic beverages in flight.

Of course, none of this is relevant to the individual flight attendant's choice to serve or not to serve, to enforce or not to enforce, just as not every bartender checks ID.

Globaliser Aug 22, 2019 7:40 am


Originally Posted by SkyTeem (Post 31443654)
The states each have their own, nuanced take on when it's legal to serve and to whom (with parents, at a meal, not on Sundays, etc). At least one state left it to each individual county within the state.

If you will please pardon the digression, the conjunction with this thread - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...k-daniels.html - reminds me of what is probably my favourite US alcohol fact: the Jack Daniel Distillery is located in Lynchburg in Moore County, Tennessee - which is a dry county.


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