No nuts please!
Apr 8, 2019, 10:16 am
#31
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If I remember correctly, it is 1 x EpiPen in the kit, and also adrenalin separately which could then be administered by a HCP, or, at the direction of a doctor on the ground in extreme cases.
Might have changed or my knowledge may have completely failed me since leaving...
Apr 8, 2019, 10:17 am
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Unless you stab it into someone's eye, nothing can do wrong with epipen.
The dose in a epipen is only just over half the dose that would be given in A&E or an ambulance.
Worse case is that you give it someone not having an anaphylactic reaction, it which case they might feel a bit funny but won't do any harm.
The dose in a epipen is only just over half the dose that would be given in A&E or an ambulance.
Worse case is that you give it someone not having an anaphylactic reaction, it which case they might feel a bit funny but won't do any harm.
Apr 8, 2019, 10:24 am
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We had this on a flight back from CPT recently. I did hear one lady across the cabin asking whether this would also apply in F in a rather DYKWIA way, it did and the crew served up crisps instead of nuts, pinched, i assume, from the club kitchen. Didn't make any difference to me, but I've had this quite a few times and it's amazing the groans and moans that go on if they make this kind of announcement on a short haul holiday flight.
Apr 8, 2019, 10:25 am
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Not a great fan of nuts so I would also support BA if they stopped serving them for some other savoury snack instead. Especially if there is an increase in such incidents.
Apr 8, 2019, 10:28 am
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Sounds like the incorrect procedure was carried out on that flight, you wouldn’t make an announcement in First if you had someone with a nut allergy, you would inform customers personally, I’m guessing the customer was in another cabin and customers could have consumed nuts.
Apr 8, 2019, 10:35 am
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Yikes, I only left 2.5 years ago... And feel like I have forgotten already!
If I remember correctly, it is 1 x EpiPen in the kit, and also adrenalin separately which could then be administered by a HCP, or, at the direction of a doctor on the ground in extreme cases.
Might have changed or my knowledge may have completely failed me since leaving...
If I remember correctly, it is 1 x EpiPen in the kit, and also adrenalin separately which could then be administered by a HCP, or, at the direction of a doctor on the ground in extreme cases.
Might have changed or my knowledge may have completely failed me since leaving...
The odd one was the Chlorpheniramine (an anti-histamine), it seems to be an strange presentation (for emergency use) of 0.5mg/ml which means you'd have to give 20ml to get the normal emergency dose of 10mg. This is quite a big amount to give into muscle tissue (not an issue if you have someone to cannulate (which can't be guaranteed, even with a HCP on board). Given this would be the effect treatment for most reactions, it just seems an odd choice, that could increase the chance of diversion.
Apr 8, 2019, 10:43 am
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Yikes, I only left 2.5 years ago... And feel like I have forgotten already!
If I remember correctly, it is 1 x EpiPen in the kit, and also adrenalin separately which could then be administered by a HCP, or, at the direction of a doctor on the ground in extreme cases.
Might have changed or my knowledge may have completely failed me since leaving...
If I remember correctly, it is 1 x EpiPen in the kit, and also adrenalin separately which could then be administered by a HCP, or, at the direction of a doctor on the ground in extreme cases.
Might have changed or my knowledge may have completely failed me since leaving...
Correct! ^
Apr 8, 2019, 11:37 am
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My cousin and his children are highly allergic to nuts. He collapsed on a stag do and people thought he was just drunk. Lucky there was an off duty paramedic enjoying a few pints in the same bar who realised something was clearly not right, searched my cousin's pocket for an epipen and saved his life.
Therefore, giving up eating nuts on a flight if it stops someone dying is not much to ask. The problem is much worse than some people can imagine. Agree with others, there should be an alternative, i.e. pretzels, dried fruits etc.
Therefore, giving up eating nuts on a flight if it stops someone dying is not much to ask. The problem is much worse than some people can imagine. Agree with others, there should be an alternative, i.e. pretzels, dried fruits etc.
Apr 8, 2019, 12:34 pm
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On CityFlyer we don’t serve nuts (Club Europe and Greek Islands Euro Traveller get pretzels) and none of the meals contain nut ingredients. People with a nut allergy are invited to pre-board and wipe down their seat area with sanitising wipes.
Apr 8, 2019, 12:42 pm
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We had this on a flight back from CPT recently. I did hear one lady across the cabin asking whether this would also apply in F in a rather DYKWIA way, it did and the crew served up crisps instead of nuts, pinched, i assume, from the club kitchen. Didn't make any difference to me, but I've had this quite a few times and it's amazing the groans and moans that go on if they make this kind of announcement on a short haul holiday flight.
"Look at that guy! He wore boots - boots! - that take FOREVER to unlace at Security.
[delayed for a total of 20 seconds in reality]
OMG! Can you believe that dude is lining up twenty minutes before boarding!
[is compensating for sitting for the next four hours]
And now, some snotnose with bad genes means I can't have a handful of nuts on board!
[he could die? Don't care, want my nuts! Kick him off if he's sick! I! WANT! MY! NUTS!]
And then they end with:
"Man, traveling really sucks!"
Apr 8, 2019, 12:44 pm
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That is not why people in Japan wear surgical masks. In many Asian countries, if someone wakes up with a cough or a sore throat and thinks they may have a cold coming on (or similar) they wear a mask so they don't pass on anything. Not for personal protection. I find this very polite and I wish more people in Europe would do the same.
Apr 8, 2019, 12:45 pm
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From a strictly self-interest standpoint if the airlines didn't have a procedure and a policy then you might run the risk of a medical diversion which could foul up your plans. It would be preferable to go without nuts for a few hours than miss a connection or important meeting.