Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
May 7, 2020, 11:20 am
#286
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May 7, 2020, 11:21 am
#287
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I'd be happy to have a flight to a country that lets me in! The seat is somewhat a secondary consideration, as long as its J or F! 
But, you're right ... we need something to talk about and look forward to. I look forward to the return of DYKWIA posts about speaker-phones in Lounges, and warm white wine, as well!
But, you're right ... we need something to talk about and look forward to. I look forward to the return of DYKWIA posts about speaker-phones in Lounges, and warm white wine, as well!
Jun 1, 2020, 4:10 pm
#290
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Can we assume that, given some accelerated retirements, the odds of Club Suite will now be improved?
I wonder also if refits will have been accelerated as all airframes can now be made available?
I wonder also if refits will have been accelerated as all airframes can now be made available?
Jun 2, 2020, 12:37 am
#292
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The supply chain economics probably says no. There have been reports about the determining factor for refits is the production of the seats themselves. Now there might be some delays, which means there might be seats available for refits that wouldn't be otherwise (provided seats for a 777 are equal to those for an A350.) OTOH we don't know what the payment plan is exactly for the seats, and if there is an opportunity to save a bit of cash right now, BA would probably take it!
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Jun 4, 2020, 6:17 am
#293
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Jun 4, 2020, 12:49 pm
#294
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Really not sure if this is the right thread for my question, so bear with me if I am not supposed to ask here.
Planning to fly IST-LAX sometime in mid August, and have as of now two options to get the Club Suite, LHR-SEA on 787-10 or LHR-AUS on A351K. While everything is still up in the air, how likely is it that these flights will operate in August, and which one is the safer bet?
Planning to fly IST-LAX sometime in mid August, and have as of now two options to get the Club Suite, LHR-SEA on 787-10 or LHR-AUS on A351K. While everything is still up in the air, how likely is it that these flights will operate in August, and which one is the safer bet?
Jun 4, 2020, 12:59 pm
#295
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Really not sure if this is the right thread for my question, so bear with me if I am not supposed to ask here.
Planning to fly IST-LAX sometime in mid August, and have as of now two options to get the Club Suite, LHR-SEA on 787-10 or LHR-AUS on A351K. While everything is still up in the air, how likely is it that these flights will operate in August, and which one is the safer bet?
Planning to fly IST-LAX sometime in mid August, and have as of now two options to get the Club Suite, LHR-SEA on 787-10 or LHR-AUS on A351K. While everything is still up in the air, how likely is it that these flights will operate in August, and which one is the safer bet?
Jun 4, 2020, 3:45 pm
#296
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I've heard seat production may be slowed due to coronavirus (distancing etc)
Last edited by JFX1764; Jun 4, 2020 at 3:51 pm
Jul 1, 2020, 3:19 pm
#298
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All of the Gatwick 777's have been refurbished recently, but with 'old' Club World, there are no plans for Club World Suite at Gatwick
Jul 1, 2020, 3:30 pm
#299
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I don’t see how they are inferior product(s) to a premium economy seat but I’m sure you have your own personal preferences that Norwegian provide.
Jul 1, 2020, 3:37 pm
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A rather peculiar choice, But each to their own. In normal times just take the AA 77W to MIA and then hop up to TPA if the BA seat isn’t up to much