Speculation on new F hard product
Mar 18, 2019, 1:16 pm
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Speculation on new F hard product
With the Club Suite details revealed, what does FT think BA will change with their soon-to-be-announced revised/revamped/refreshed F hard product? I doubt that BA will add any showers or bar area, but what about:
- more space?
- more privacy? (i.e. door)
- separate bed / seat?
- better options for couples? (i.e. seats/suites that merge together, like SQ/EY, etc)
- more space?
- more privacy? (i.e. door)
- separate bed / seat?
- better options for couples? (i.e. seats/suites that merge together, like SQ/EY, etc)
Mar 18, 2019, 1:35 pm
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I for one really like the current 747/777 seat and hope they don't change it too much. It has one of the most comfortable seating positions of any international F class I've tried bar maybe CX. The aesthetics of the cabin is refined and understated and it offers a good compromise between privacy and airiness.
The additional storage space on the 380 is great but the aesthetics not so much, really looks like they tried ram the 777 seat in there and had an intern design the additional piece of kit to make it fit.
I really hope it doesn't continue down the path of the 787 seat. While it looks stunning it's poorly designed and the build quality is shockingly bad. Don't get me started on the fixed TV and lack of a buddy seat.
A slight variation of the 747/777 seat with a bit more storage and possibly a AF style privacy curtain would make for a very nice seat and cabin without scarifying density.
The additional storage space on the 380 is great but the aesthetics not so much, really looks like they tried ram the 777 seat in there and had an intern design the additional piece of kit to make it fit.
I really hope it doesn't continue down the path of the 787 seat. While it looks stunning it's poorly designed and the build quality is shockingly bad. Don't get me started on the fixed TV and lack of a buddy seat.
A slight variation of the 747/777 seat with a bit more storage and possibly a AF style privacy curtain would make for a very nice seat and cabin without scarifying density.
Mar 18, 2019, 1:54 pm
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Mar 18, 2019, 2:01 pm
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Though the following is more of a comparison with EY's Residence offering, I recently came across Delta's First-class Penthouse product from 1970:
http://www.deltamuseum.org/docs/site...e.pdf?sfvrsn=2
Delta offered a unique First Class experience in the "world's first flying penthouse apartment" on its first “widebody" jet, the Boeing 747 in 1970. The 747 Penthouse was located on the Boeing 747's upper deck, above the First Class cabin and adjacent to the First Class lounge. Seats for 6 passengers were sold only as a unit. The Penthouse was staffed by its own flight attendant.
Mar 18, 2019, 2:11 pm
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I don't think the seat or the cabins in general need to be improved that much - the biggest issue with current first is the ground experience: no limousines, no dedicated boarding, no arrival service, Concorde room etc...
Mar 18, 2019, 2:41 pm
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Given the 777-9 has been announced with 8 First, this indicates a 1x2x1 configuration (no wider than Club Suites). Even with some jenga (like the forward-backwards Etihad First on their 787s), the space probably won't increase dramatically. Soft product might be the future here.
Mar 18, 2019, 3:01 pm
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I for one really like the current 747/777 seat and hope they don't change it too much. It has one of the most comfortable seating positions of any international F class I've tried bar maybe CX. The aesthetics of the cabin is refined and understated and it offers a good compromise between privacy and airiness.
Mar 18, 2019, 4:01 pm
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Reducing cabin size to 8 will help a lot assuming they still have at least two dedicated crew members, much better food and wine, on board and in lounge, and some better ground handling will make a much bigger difference than a bigger seat and a door.
Mar 18, 2019, 4:05 pm
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Given the 777-9 has been announced with 8 First, this indicates a 1x2x1 configuration (no wider than Club Suites). Even with some jenga (like the forward-backwards Etihad First on their 787s), the space probably won't increase dramatically. Soft product might be the future here.
Mar 18, 2019, 4:13 pm
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I agree with the OP. As someone else mentions in the other thread, if they install the new J in 4 cabin aircrafts, those of us who particularly value privacy may wonder if they might be better off in J than in F.
Mar 18, 2019, 5:31 pm
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A bit more space for a jacket / coat would be good. Some privacy for changing into pjs, but above all a much bigger bathroom. It's so strange that first class has an economy bathroom, it messes with my head.