Mar 18, 2019, 10:00 am
Advice: Parent kicked out of seat by "celebrity"
Mar 19, 2019, 5:34 am
#196
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I note the OP had an oddly similar experience himself, albeit in business-class, which attracted similar pages of outrage and discussion.
Unnecessary daggers thrown...
And I think he's the OP of the recent polemical post involving CCR blaggers.
Clearly an eventful life.
Unnecessary daggers thrown...
And I think he's the OP of the recent polemical post involving CCR blaggers.
Clearly an eventful life.
Mar 19, 2019, 7:30 am
#197
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You can get away with telling us who it is if you want too. Not sure if i can think of anyone apart from Lord Adonis.
Mar 19, 2019, 7:49 am
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Mar 19, 2019, 8:00 am
#201
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Frankly I would fire straight away the cabin crew who did not honour what was written on the ticket and gave way to a disgusting bully.
Agree the best course of action here would have been to send the story to the media.
Agree the best course of action here would have been to send the story to the media.
Mar 19, 2019, 12:03 pm
#202
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I would only complain if the member of cabin crew actually forced your father to switch seats. If your father gave up his seat voluntarily I'd just name and shame the person who thought it was OK to bully your father into giving up his seat.
You're saying that the CSM was indifferent. As far as I understand your father approached them after he took the new seat? What was the nature of the complaint? I am just not sure what you wanted for them to do if you're saying that the cabin crew did not do anything wrong.
You're saying that the CSM was indifferent. As far as I understand your father approached them after he took the new seat? What was the nature of the complaint? I am just not sure what you wanted for them to do if you're saying that the cabin crew did not do anything wrong.
Mar 19, 2019, 12:24 pm
#203
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[QUOTE=frandrake;30904902]Frankly I would fire straight away the cabin crew who did not honour what was written on the ticket and gave way to a disgusting bully.
Then you would find yourself up to your neck in hot water from an industrial tribunal.
Then you would find yourself up to your neck in hot water from an industrial tribunal.
Mar 19, 2019, 12:29 pm
#205
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I'm just going to assume it was Jeremy Clarkson until OP tells us otherwise...
Mar 19, 2019, 1:23 pm
#206
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Let's take the situation one step further: Father refuses to give up seat. FA had already made up their mind to move Father. Now the Father risks disobeying an order by an FA. Voluntary...I think not. You don't always have to let the game play out to know the final score.
Mar 19, 2019, 1:43 pm
#208
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Actually, quite rarely so. With TS, even if no gold has selected it, it will typically be only available to some still fairly frequent flyers, likely silver/sapphire. On US-UK routes, you do not only have BAEC high status passengers but also AA ones to consider. 1A/1K being available to someone without status in F can undoubtedly happen, but would likely be an extremely rare scenario.
Mar 19, 2019, 2:00 pm
#209
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As none of us were they we don’t know what was said, and as for customers not instigating seat moves, what world do you live in? 
I cannot believe any crew member wouldn’t act if they observed any type of bullying of a customer, none of us know what the picture looked and sounded like.
I cannot believe any crew member wouldn’t act if they observed any type of bullying of a customer, none of us know what the picture looked and sounded like.
Mar 19, 2019, 2:00 pm
#210
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It is clear to me that:
rb211.
- The only information we have is second hand from a single source
- Even people with zero obvious biases report the same incident differently, sometimes significantly
- We don't know exactly what was said, how it was said and in what order, or exactly what happened at each point in the incident
- We will probably never have much more information than we already have, and that information is incomplete and probably unintentionally skewed
rb211.