Probable A380 Program Termination This Week - No last minute BA Order
Feb 16, 2019, 9:08 pm
#151
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 552
Yesterday I flew EK434 DXB-BNE and the flight was not full.
The crew offered us seats 52 HJK (yes, all three !) for the two of us. Bulkhead seats with more legroom. And I saw a lot of empty seats. Now I understand why some 380s are not profitable. I bet that all pax on our flight could fit in a 77W.
BTW, there were two babies of the same parents, screaming and crying almost the entire 14 hour flight, which kept us from sleep despite having nice seats. Next time baby cry noise canceling headphones with us...
The crew offered us seats 52 HJK (yes, all three !) for the two of us. Bulkhead seats with more legroom. And I saw a lot of empty seats. Now I understand why some 380s are not profitable. I bet that all pax on our flight could fit in a 77W.
BTW, there were two babies of the same parents, screaming and crying almost the entire 14 hour flight, which kept us from sleep despite having nice seats. Next time baby cry noise canceling headphones with us...
Feb 16, 2019, 9:43 pm
#152
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
Yesterday I flew EK434 DXB-BNE and the flight was not full.
The crew offered us seats 52 HJK (yes, all three !) for the two of us. Bulkhead seats with more legroom. And I saw a lot of empty seats. Now I understand why some 380s are not profitable. I bet that all pax on our flight could fit in a 77W.
BTW, there were two babies of the same parents, screaming and crying almost the entire 14 hour flight, which kept us from sleep despite having nice seats. Next time baby cry noise canceling headphones with us...
The crew offered us seats 52 HJK (yes, all three !) for the two of us. Bulkhead seats with more legroom. And I saw a lot of empty seats. Now I understand why some 380s are not profitable. I bet that all pax on our flight could fit in a 77W.
BTW, there were two babies of the same parents, screaming and crying almost the entire 14 hour flight, which kept us from sleep despite having nice seats. Next time baby cry noise canceling headphones with us...
Feb 17, 2019, 12:16 am
#153
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,190
Although never really envisaged or intended as a cargo plane (unlike the 747) and wouldn't be well utilized as a normal cargo plane (at common densities) I wonder if one or two might find future life as specialist cargo carriers. Perhaps carrying A320 wings or something that needs the space but has lower density than standard air freight. Probably not, but stranger things have happened.
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Feb 17, 2019, 6:08 am
#154
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
Although never really envisaged or intended as a cargo plane (unlike the 747) and wouldn't be well utilized as a normal cargo plane (at common densities) I wonder if one or two might find future life as specialist cargo carriers. Perhaps carrying A320 wings or something that needs the space but has lower density than standard air freight. Probably not, but stranger things have happened.
rb211.
rb211.
Feb 17, 2019, 6:49 am
#155
Join Date: May 2016
Location: EDI
Programs: Was BA GGL but no longer travelling
Posts: 583
I flew the 380 for the first time last year (DOH to MEL); out in club, back in first (free upgrade). I loved it. But I think the 350 is a nicer aircraft, and clearly easier to fill up with pax Always a sad day when an innovative aircraft reaches the end of the line. I wonder if we'll see a double-decker again?
Feb 17, 2019, 7:29 am
#156
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Feb 17, 2019, 8:04 am
#157
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Feb 17, 2019, 11:42 am
#158
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Feb 17, 2019, 11:46 am
#159
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: City of Kingston Upon Hull
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It will be an interesting challenge to get the aerodynamics right to allow for a double-deck twin
Feb 17, 2019, 11:51 am
#160
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For reasons talked about above, the aerodynamics might be even less of a problem than building the monster engines. If the New York Times reckons that the 380 was a "jaw-dropping" airframe, wait until you see the donks on the new big twin!
Feb 17, 2019, 6:08 pm
#162
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Japan/Thailand
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The optimised cabin layout based on the ‘cabin enablers’ presented at Aircraft Interiors Expo (AIX), allows up to 80 additional seats* with no compromise on comfort: redesigned stairs, a combined crew-rest compartment, sidewall stowage removal, a new 9-abreast seat configuration in premium economy and 11-abreast in economy.