QR J vs BA F & BA J
Jan 9, 2019, 8:28 am
#31
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,401
@ brunos - it can be amusing, but then I guess it’s just the way things are, ever since the arrival of the interwebby thing !
People will happily take to their keyboard to pass judgement on restaurants / hotels / airlines that they have never used ; or even countries they have never set foot in. Such is life.
People will happily take to their keyboard to pass judgement on restaurants / hotels / airlines that they have never used ; or even countries they have never set foot in. Such is life.
Jan 9, 2019, 9:01 am
#32
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,274
I'm no fan of BA's current Club offering but it is perhaps a little unfair to compare a product which is well overdue for replacement (and then some) with QR's new state-of-the-art suites. For sure, there is a cavernous difference in virtually every aspect but I'm hoping BA pick up that challenge and surprise us all.
Jan 9, 2019, 9:16 am
#34
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,401
There’s a lot riding on this new J seat !
Depending on what the-great-reveal brings, I sincerely hope I will be wanting to ride it myself (ideally, a lot more than I do the current iteration)
Depending on what the-great-reveal brings, I sincerely hope I will be wanting to ride it myself (ideally, a lot more than I do the current iteration)
Jan 9, 2019, 9:36 am
#35
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 10,177
As someone who mainly flies Y/W with the odd UuA or paid J fare then it's more of a treat for me really and I try to avoid old 777's/747s.
I do hope your right though and can't wait for the first "I'm never flying QR/AA/CX again" thread in a BA v others type thread
Jan 9, 2019, 9:42 am
#36
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,401
I’m just about to book a couple of lengthy sectors on - what I believe will be - one of them old 747’s. (Upper deck, so methinks it will be fine ...)
Jan 9, 2019, 9:51 am
#37
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 6,349
I'm no fan of BA's current Club offering but it is perhaps a little unfair to compare a product which is well overdue for replacement (and then some) with QR's new state-of-the-art suites. For sure, there is a cavernous difference in virtually every aspect but I'm hoping BA pick up that challenge and surprise us all.
Or do we need to give BA the sympathy vote?
Jan 9, 2019, 9:57 am
#38
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 10,177
Back on topic though I look forward to seeing the new BA seat but likewise also trying at some point the QSuite which does look fab.
I didn't actually realise that they have some backward facing window seats on the QR suite too though but that doesn't bother me but I've always said unless I need the TP's I'd always rather go direct.
Jan 9, 2019, 10:04 am
#39
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,401
@ PETER01 - recommendations duly noted thanks, but perhaps mine will have had the so-called deep-clean treatment, and perhaps even be sporting the updated IFE (though it’s an overnighter ... am aiming to sleep mostly, so not a major issue this time)
Jan 9, 2019, 10:12 am
#40
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 10,177
OT here but may I also recommend a sleeping tip too?
29 Thimbles of Champagne
Jan 9, 2019, 10:29 am
#41
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,401
Jan 9, 2019, 11:44 am
#42
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,630
I have flown extensively In QR J (inc A380 to MEL,BKK and several 787's), but about 3 months ago I tried the BA merry go round AMS - LHR - KUL - BKK - HKG - LHR - AMS, with a litte side bar to DPS. In order of preference I would say:
1) BA F on 787 to KUL - best seat, easiest to sleep, good service, access to CCR. Dissapointing selection on IFE.
2) = CX J on A350 - only a short hop from BKK - HKG, but great hard product with good service
2) = QR J A380 / B787 - seat is not as nice as BA F, but far better IFE and good service. Gets marked down due to those awful chicken sausages that they serve for breakfast
3) BA J A380 - night time flight, so maybe not a direct comparison - seat was as good as QR J, but not having direct isle access is a drawback. Service was good
4) MH J A330 - good service but a narrow seat
5) MH J B737 - suprisingly good flight for a narrow bodied flight. Plenty of space and excelent service. More top up's of my wine glass than any of the above flights.
6) BA CE A320 - you get what you pay for (only 45 minutes back to AMS). However the early morning breakfast was the tastiest meal of the trip.
1) BA F on 787 to KUL - best seat, easiest to sleep, good service, access to CCR. Dissapointing selection on IFE.
2) = CX J on A350 - only a short hop from BKK - HKG, but great hard product with good service
2) = QR J A380 / B787 - seat is not as nice as BA F, but far better IFE and good service. Gets marked down due to those awful chicken sausages that they serve for breakfast
3) BA J A380 - night time flight, so maybe not a direct comparison - seat was as good as QR J, but not having direct isle access is a drawback. Service was good
4) MH J A330 - good service but a narrow seat
5) MH J B737 - suprisingly good flight for a narrow bodied flight. Plenty of space and excelent service. More top up's of my wine glass than any of the above flights.
6) BA CE A320 - you get what you pay for (only 45 minutes back to AMS). However the early morning breakfast was the tastiest meal of the trip.
Jan 9, 2019, 3:04 pm
#43
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVPG, SPG Gold
Posts: 187
In addition to what navylad already mentions, freshly squeezed orange juice from most destination (the 'supermarket machine' type, not Tropicana type as on BA), fresh squeeze lemon-mint, fresh yoghurt drink (laban). Of course, QR's important Muslim customer base may explain that they had no choice but to multiply those choices, but airlines such as CX offer signature mocktails too, JL a luxury bottled tea (ridiculously priced for those who buy it but still excellent), and I think it is fair to say that a significant proportion of frequent flyers choose not to drink (or to drink little) alcoholon board for entirely non-religious reasons so I do think it would be nice for BA to try and cater for them too. Right now, we are stuck with ridiculously sweet sodas, mediocre juices or (thankfully) sparkling water.
Last edited by pdxparse; Jan 9, 2019 at 3:06 pm Reason: Grammar
Jan 9, 2019, 9:30 pm
#45
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: BA GGL, LH FTL
Posts: 3,579
They seem to be doing more than ok with being non-competitive. Assuming your user name means you travel SQ a fair bit - we can probably agree quickly that the SQ product is better in almost all aspects. Yet BA fares between LHR and SIN tend to be higher than SQ.
BA has found that sweet spot where they have a very attractive FFP, charge outrageous amount for direct London services, and does low fares to fill up the rest of their planes using connecting services from places like AMS.
BA has found that sweet spot where they have a very attractive FFP, charge outrageous amount for direct London services, and does low fares to fill up the rest of their planes using connecting services from places like AMS.